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Topic: ASK Madge at RCI
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David Roe Non MemberPosts: 8 From: Parsippany, NJ, USA Registered: JAN 2003
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posted 01-14-2003 07:04
No.
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cz TUG MemberPosts: 3231 From: The Rushes wk 26, Lake Forest wk 3, Christmas Mt 5 UDI's up to 17 wks each UDI. 2 Cottages & 3 OakTimbers. RCI Points, and wk. 10 Driftwood Inn Registered: MAR 2002
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posted 01-14-2003 07:43
Mr. Roe, which question is your no answer in response to, as you did not identify the person or the posting you were replying to? Would you please give the reasons or reasoning for that short answer? Thank you in advance for your cooperation and for your clarifying reply post. Bruce quote: Originally posted by David Roe: No.
------------------ Bruce F. & Judy Czajkowski, Kansasville Wi. Judy is a teacher and Bruce is retired (and off his much needed medication)and thinks(?) that you are never to old to have a happy childhood. [This message has been edited by cz (edited 01-14-2003).]
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David Roe Non MemberPosts: 8 From: Parsippany, NJ, USA Registered: JAN 2003
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posted 01-14-2003 08:05
Not True.
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Pat_Rita TUG MemberPosts: 529 From: Columbia, MD Registered: APR 2002
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posted 01-14-2003 08:55
quote: Originally posted by David Roe: ...we go to elaborate lengths to make sure we’re doing everything we can to ensure that we’re giving our Members the best possible opportunity to get the exchange they want.
David, with all due respect, this is a very subjective statement. I quantify "best possible opportunity" by reviewing where I am today versus several years ago. I can say without equivocation that the system is not continuing to provide the "best possible opportunity". Bonus weeks have diminshed through these additional venues you have put in place in order to capture more business. These are from my own observations. quote: Originally posted by David Roe: “marketable inventory” category (at which point they are still available for exchange), which refers to weeks that members historically simply do not want or use.
Please explain this concept more clearly. What is the timeframe for a week to be eligible for "marketable inventory"? quote: And, all of the weeks in RCI’s rental inventory are offered to members at a significant discount off the price charged to the general public.
There have been many threads on this BBS about the outrageous prices of rentals in RCI. Some upwards of $3000. I would not call that a significant discount. What is the discount percentage for the RCI member who pays the annual RCI membership fee as well? quote: edited post to include some examples of pricing
Resort Name: Clowance Estate and Country Club Resort ID: 2828 Location: Cornwall, ENGLAND Max Occ/Privacy: 6/4 Check-in Date: 09/06/2003 - 09/06/2003 Priced From: $5,000.00 Resort Name: Passage House Club Hotel Resort ID: 2718 Location: Devon, ENGLAND Max Occ/Privacy: 4/4 Check-in Date: 09/13/2003 - 09/13/2003 Priced From: $5,000.00 Resort Name: Walton Hall Resort ID: 1065 Location: Warwickshire, ENGLAND Max Occ/Privacy: 6/2 Check-in Date: 09/06/2003 - 09/20/2003 Priced From: $5,000.00
TIA.
Rita ------------------ Carpe Diem! [This message has been edited by Pat_Rita (edited 01-14-2003).]
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EdB TUG MemberPosts: 7145 From: Arizona Registered: DEC 2000
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posted 01-14-2003 09:40
quote: Originally posted by David Roe: Not True.
David, it's very difficult to know what you're responding to in this case. It would help if, instead of clicking the Reply button, you clicked the Quote button. That would insert the original post, in bold, as I've done here. You can then go to the bottom of the post and insert your answer. If it's a short one like "No" or "Not true," then we know exactly who and what you're responding to. With both of today's responses, we have no idea who you are responding to.
------------------ Ed Bott -- Visit my Web site
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Jim S TUG MemberPosts: 1082 From: La Canada, CA Registered: DEC 2000
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posted 01-14-2003 10:06
Posted by David Roe on the other thread" "There is only one way for us to prove we are for real and that's for us to keep posting."In the spirit of of your statement above, I hope you will elaborate on your "No" and "Not True." Jim ------------------ Our Family Webpage
[This message has been edited by Jim S (edited 01-14-2003).]
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Pat_Rita TUG MemberPosts: 529 From: Columbia, MD Registered: APR 2002
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posted 01-14-2003 12:17
Did not know where to post responses to the RCI IRB (Internet Review Board) Meeting except for here
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1.a RCI has been modifying and tweaking the infrastructure to improve site performance. RCI is continuing to modify the Mainframe in order to bolster site performance.
Performance is one problem with the website. The main problem is the constant error messages you receive when trying to perform transactions. This cannot all be related to performance. It would seem they would first and foremost fix the errors in the current application. For example, very rarely do I leave an RCI session without the following error: quote:
For internal use only : Exception in toggleWeeksSystem:WeeksAdapter Transaction not found Due to internal error, the system is unavailable.
There should be an ongoing list of bugs and bug fixes with associated dates etc... quote:
2)David Roe, EVP & General Manager, RCI Membership Business 2.a. David explained the role of the RCI Internet Advisory Board
What is that role? Ongoing on temporary?
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2.c David mentioned to the Board that RCI has invested a large amount of time and money into a CRM program to better serve our members.
What is the CRM program? ------------------ Carpe Diem! [This message has been edited by Pat_Rita (edited 01-14-2003).]
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EdB TUG MemberPosts: 7145 From: Arizona Registered: DEC 2000
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posted 01-14-2003 12:34
quote: Originally posted by Pat_Rita: What is the CRM program?
CRM = Customer Relationship Management This is a software program that allows an organization to keep records of all contacts with its customers, so that it can see a history and use that history to improve service or offer additional, relevant products. With a good CRM program, each time you call in a note is made in your file, along with notes from the person who talked to you. The next time you call in, that history is available so you don't have to repeat yourself or engage in he said/she said discussions. CRM software does much more than this, of course, but that's it in a nutshell. It should make the job of the telephone rep much easier and ultimately provide better service to the customer. ------------------ Ed Bott -- Visit my Web site
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IANNUFC TUG MemberPosts: 13 From: Cumbria Registered: JAN 2003
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posted 01-14-2003 13:09
Hi MadgeI am a happy RCI points member in England with the following two aspects of RCI Points letting the system down: 1) The RCI Points statements sent out three or four times a year are absolute rubbish and are very rarely correct. I know a lot of other RCI Points members and this has been confirmed to me a number of times. So much so that i feel very sorry for your staff answerring the telephones as this must be a nightmare. 2) More importantly is the web Site or should I say the LACK OF IT. We were promised not for the first time at the AGM in June 2002 that the RCI Points Web Site would be totally live including being able to make live transactions etc by the end of 2002 at the latest. As at today we cannot do anything on the Web site except for looking at the resorts which is basically useless. Please could you advise me what the position is for this as surely in these days more complicated web sites have been produced and are working with no problems. As stated above I like the RCI Points system and i think it has a great future but only when the above are sorted. I await your comments.
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IANNUFC TUG MemberPosts: 13 From: Cumbria Registered: JAN 2003
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posted 01-14-2003 14:17
Hi MadgeFirst of all may I say it is very nice to see that RCI are trying to sort out Members general problems. I am a very happy Points member with the exception of the non existent web site and the real value of my Pure Points and I would like to ask you to look at the following and explain to me and my fellow European members who are worried about this position:
I have E mailed you re the web site previously. With regard to Pure points the value of Pure Points in Europe are non economic since the conversion factor of Points Partner transactions and the new 2003 management fees were put in place by RCI Points. To give you a couple of examples please see below:
If a European Member owns 30,000 or 50,000 Pure Points and assuming this member has more than 106,000 Points in total then the costs will be as follows: 30,000 Pure Points: Man fee to RCI Points of £204 50,000 Pure Points: Man fee to RCI Points of £340 In the case of 30,000 Pure Points if you use a points Partner transaction using the 18,800 Points per £100 conversion these would be worth only £160. With 50,000 pure points these would be worth £266. As you can see the Points Partner transaction values do not even match the fees paid on these and therefore are now basically a waste of ones money. This was not the case previously until the conversion rate changed from I think 15,000 per £100 and the management fees went up. As a European member cannot join RCI Points without purchasing some pure points surely RCI can see that this will put off future members from joining. Also the current members will eventually be forced to give up the Pure Points that their own if this situation continues. I do know that this matter is worrying a lot of Eropean members as I am a member of MORPS which is a European Website just like TUG and this subject has been disscussed at length by many members. Could you please give me some idea of what RCI will do to correct this situation. I thank you in anticipation of a reply.
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alanmj TUG MemberPosts: 256 From: Ottawa, Ontario, Canada Registered: JAN 2002
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posted 01-14-2003 14:51
Hi Madge,Let me add my voice in welcoming you here. Can you tell me when the "View Your Travel Plans" section will be working again? I know from TUG that many of us are experiencing the same problem. I have been unable to view my reservations and my online searches for over two weeks now. This makes it very difficult to know when one of my searches has got a "hit". I may have missed some holds because I didn't go online to confirm them. I did send an email into RCI a few days ago, but not got even a form letter response yet. Thanks, Alan
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Ray TUG MemberPosts: 1319 From: Vacation Village @ Parkway Own: Marathon Key, LaCosta, Inn on Harbor, HarwichPort, Marriott Vail Birch Registered: DEC 2000
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posted 01-14-2003 15:00
[QUOTE]Originally posted by Dori: [B]Me, too Ray, now that I am really retired!!Congrats, Dori. Looking forward to seeing you and Mike.
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alanmj TUG MemberPosts: 256 From: Ottawa, Ontario, Canada Registered: JAN 2002
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posted 01-14-2003 15:10
Madge,There really are gremlins out there!!! Just immediately after I posted the previous message, I tried one more time, and for the first time this year was able to view my travel plans, including the important point that I have a unit on hold! So either there are gremlins at work, or you fixed it for me instantaneously. (The problem is I believe neither hypothesis.) I just rang RCI though because there is no notification regarding for how long the unit will be held for, before being released. The old web site used to tell us. A quick word with your web programmers should fix that. I have noticed generally that I am more successful on your new web site with Explorer than with Netscape, and am more successful at work (T3 line) than at home (DSL). Perhaps more grist for the mill. Thanks again, Alan
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ayb1 TUG MemberPosts: 452 From: London, UK Registered: APR 2002
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posted 01-14-2003 15:10
David: I can only assume your "No" answer is in response to the message immediately before it, i.e. the request to state RCI's official policy with regards to rental weeks. The one that is used by your official auditors.Is that true? If that is the case, how can you tell us you intend to be open and communicate with all of the RCI members on this bulletin board? I am confused. --Alex
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David Roe Non MemberPosts: 8 From: Parsippany, NJ, USA Registered: JAN 2003
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posted 01-14-2003 16:18
Apologies for confusing everyone today with my short answers. I was trying to post quick answers on a couple of topics in between meetings & it didn't quite work. Ed B. - thanks for the tip.I spoke with Madge & she will be answering the questions posted in detail. One quick point however - our "stated policies" are contained in our Terms & Conditions which is given to new members when they buy their interval/Points at point of sale. It is also published to read on RCI.com under the About Us tab.
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SydneyTugger TUG MemberPosts: 1237 From: Sydney, Australia Registered: AUG 2002
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posted 01-14-2003 16:35
David/Madge, please don't forget about my Aussie points question. If it is inappropriate to ask here since Ed has suggested that your primary concern is the US and weeks members, then just let me know.
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maverick TUG MemberPosts: 930 From: Long Island, NY Registered: AUG 2001
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posted 01-14-2003 16:56
David,I am trying to follow all of these threads but it can be a little overwhelming. My question is would it be possible to make all weeks, regardless of how RCI obtained them, available to dues paying members for exchange, assuming that they had sufficient trade power? What about as a rental? I know that I would be upset if I saw that non -members had access to weeks through RCI affiliates that I did not. I would not mind seeing a top quality resort offered somewhere else if I knew that I also had a shot at it with a top trader. After all, I do pay a yearly dues fee plus the exchange fees plus all the other fees that RCI imposes. Membership should have its advantages. Thanks in advance.
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SydneyTugger TUG MemberPosts: 1237 From: Sydney, Australia Registered: AUG 2002
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posted 01-14-2003 17:16
Madge, Just noticed on the website today that we can no longer run a search while having a week on hold like we could with the old site. Is this deliberate or just an oversight? Thanks.
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EdB TUG MemberPosts: 7145 From: Arizona Registered: DEC 2000
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posted 01-14-2003 19:03
quote: Originally posted by David Roe: quick point however - our "stated policies" are contained in our Terms & Conditions which is given to new members when they buy their interval/Points at point of sale. It is also published to read on RCI.com under the About Us tab.
According to those policies, David, RCI can do anything it wants with any deposited week. Is that the answer you intended to give? "We can do whatever we want"? ------------------ Ed Bott -- Visit my Web site
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jbrunson TUG MemberPosts: 255 From: Tallahassee,Fl,USA Registered: JUN 2002
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posted 01-14-2003 19:34
David, Is there any way you can assure us, or even do you desire to assure us that RCI is not taking desireable weeks from member deposits to gain more revenue from another outlet. Or in the case where this occurs, can show us how the comparable worth of replacement weeks is determined. If I haven't asked the question properly, I am still reasonably sure you understand the concern. Please address it.
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SydneyTugger TUG MemberPosts: 1237 From: Sydney, Australia Registered: AUG 2002
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posted 01-14-2003 21:32
I get this error message when trying to put a unit on hold.com.rci.exception.RCIBaseException: Error Posting Fee Exception in postFee:WeeksAdapter WeeksAdapternull Does this have anything to do with me having an Australian account? Can they fix this please?
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Judy TUG MemberPosts: 1810 From: Melbourne Beach, FL & Steamboat Springs CO. owner: Celebrity Resort World of Orlando; The Ridge Tahoe; Hatteras High; Worldmark. member:II,RCI,DAE,SFX Registered: DEC 2000
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posted 01-15-2003 06:36
Welcome Madge and David, Now that Cendant owns Trendwest and Jack McConnell has been elected to the WorldMark Board of Directors, I would like to ask a few questions about the future relationship of Worldmark with RCI: 1. Will Trendwest Travel be merged with RCI Travel? 2. Will RCI become Worldmark's official exchange company after Worldmark's contract with II expires? If so, Will current Worldmark owners continue to have the option to exchange through II? Will new Worldmark owners be RCI Points members? Will current Worldmark/RCI memberships be converted to RCI Points? If so, At what cost? What will the Worldmark credit to RCI Points ratio be? 3. In what other ways will the benefits and costs of Worldmark/RCI membership change?
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Walt TUG MemberPosts: 360 From: Brookfield,Wisconsin,USA Registered: DEC 2000
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posted 01-15-2003 08:07
[QUOTE]Originally posted by Madge: [B]Hello, Madge here! However, I can be very clear about the fact that RCI has no plans to eliminate the Weeks program. We know that many Members prefer RCI Weeks, and so not only do we do not plan to remove the Weeks option for resorts or members, we continue to enhance our traditional exchange program, with new resorts, new exchange features, and improved service. RCI's foundation was built on the one-for-one exchange -- we will continue to stand proudly on it.
_______________________________________________________________ Welcome to TUG. While the above quote may be true,WHY when I went to a presentation for converting to Points did the resort salesman (He told me that he was trained by RCI) state to me that within the next 5 years most owners will convert to Points and there will no longer be any weeks available for Weeks owner to trade into? Walt
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TheresaR Non MemberPosts: 2030 From: Shawnee on Delaware, PA, USA Registered: OCT 2002
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posted 01-15-2003 08:27
quote: Originally posted by Walt: Welcome to TUG. While the above quote may be true,WHY when I went to a presentation for converting to Points did the resort salesman (He told me that he was trained by RCI) state to me that within the next 5 years most owners will convert to Points and there will no longer be any weeks available for Weeks owner to trade into?Walt
Hi Madge, We here at Shawnee were under the impression that these meetings were not necessarily sanctioned by RCI. Many of our owenrs have been contacted about attending under the 'pretense' that they were updating RCI members on changes to RCI, and one of your reps. told our Resident Services office that RCI will always notify it's members in writing of any policy changes - leading us to believe that these meetings were being held independent of RCI's knowledge or authorization. Can you clarify that for the benefit of any RCI member who may be contacted to attend these meetings? Thank you in advance! Theresa R
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johnfornal TUG MemberPosts: 162 From: Del Mar, CA,USA Registered: OCT 2002
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posted 01-15-2003 08:55
WOW!!! How are two people going to address so many issues? I applaud your courage. I have only respect for you, first for trying to understand and then explain years of very complex financial arrangements. My suggestion to other Tuggers would be to offer their knowledgable input and feedback as how the system worked for them. It is from these actual experiences that we can all benefit. The bigger questions of corporate policy when it comes to how certain decisions are made in regard to broader issues such as the weeks offerred on a Bonus or Rental basis, involve so many factors it seems impossible to take a position as to whether the program is right or wrong. I think we all want RCI to remain in business so let's respect they need to see a profit in most of their decisions. David and Marge, I think your responses have been well thought out and very effectively written. Thanks for taking on such a huge task, especially with the website still being perfected. Can I add the Interval International website had problems as well. Maybe, we could offer our input from our experiences with the II website. Constructive input and feedback from the customer base is always valued. Let's try to focus on how we can help Dave and Marge rather than vice versa. John
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