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IAMTHEWALRUS

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From: MILWAUKEE, WI.
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posted 04-13-2005 14:29     Click Here to See the Profile for IAMTHEWALRUS     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote Post A Reply
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Originally posted by PA:
Not true of Fairfield, their fees are very high at most of their resorts. Plus, they add $79 per year on top of their generally high fees for an RCI membership, but the walrus already has an RCI account. Also, the walrus' goal was to get an II trader, and FF points is strictly RCI.

I just used 4000 points to get a 2 bedroom at the royal islander next month in cancun through II. Total cost of the maintenance fees for 4000 points + the exchange fees; less than $350.



Backwards. We have an II account, and want to get an RCI account.

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PA

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posted 04-13-2005 14:34     Click Here to See the Profile for PA   Click Here to Email PA     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote Post A Reply
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Originally posted by IAMTHEWALRUS:

Backwards. We have an II account, and want to get an RCI account.



Oops. Nevermind. Still, Worldmark has the same deal through RCI. Although, I would think you could get an RCI Points account cheaper than a worldmark account, and get better short notice deals.

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nthc

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posted 04-13-2005 16:27     Click Here to See the Profile for nthc   Click Here to Email nthc     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote Post A Reply
My only suggestion would be to buy exactly what you have that has been successful for you.

If you like what you own and it has worked for you then go buy another and the results will be the same.

cindy

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cz

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From: The Rushes wk 26, Lake Forest wk 3, Christmas Mt 6 UDI's up to 17 wks each UDI. 3 Cottages & 3 OakTimbers. RCI Pts, Florida Bay Club, Key Largo
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posted 04-13-2005 20:16     Click Here to See the Profile for cz   Click Here to Email cz     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote Post A Reply
Philip the OP has posted that he has a week 51 not a week 52 with his II week which according to II's demand index would hurt his trading power.

According to II that week 51 is ranked lower on the demand index with only 100 which for that area is the bottom 1/3 of the demand index ratings. A week 52 II index rating for that area is higher at 110.

The bottom of the barrel demand rating is at 90 while the top demand is at 125 for that area. So a demand rating according to II 100 is not very good. In fact for comparison, a week 12 in lousy mud season in Wisconsin has a rating of 100.

So spending a lot of money for a week 51 in that area does assure one of the top trading power according to the II demand index.

IMHO buying a overly expensive timeshare just for trading is just a wastse of money if you do not get a top demand week.
I take the opposite view and will spend the bucks on a place that is super hard to trade into and that has a 1 in 4 rule.

Then I will use my cheap costing RCI Points to trade into the other 95 % of the RCI resorts like the Keys for like the week 4 we traded into for 2006 with a II demand rating of 110.

The OP should be aware that with RCI demand and VEP scores carries more wieght with RCI than with II when looking to buy.

Maybe the OP should think about getting something that is dually affillated like a lot of us have done.

Bruce

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Originally posted by PA:
But both are very expensive, if all you want to do is trade them anyway. Of course, your week 52 at Hyatt on Key West wasn't exactly cheap.

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Bruce F. & Judy Czajkowski, Kansasville Wi. Judy is a teacher and Bruce is retired and thinks that you are never to old to have a happy childhood. Also own at Driftwood Inn, Vero Beach wk 14, wk 52 Sea Club IV,Daytona Beach Shores. Florida Bay Club in Key Largo and a Rayburn Country that is somewere in Texas.

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IAMTHEWALRUS

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posted 04-14-2005 07:37     Click Here to See the Profile for IAMTHEWALRUS     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote Post A Reply
Where can one find this "demand index?" I'd love to see it. Does RCI have one as well?

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cz

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posted 04-14-2005 08:27     Click Here to See the Profile for cz   Click Here to Email cz     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote Post A Reply
It is in your II directory. I do not understand how you could have missed it if you are a currant owner of a II timeshare that has done the exchanges that you mentioned doing in an earlier post of yours on this string.

For the Southern Florida Coast and Keys the demand index is on page 115 of the 2005-2006 II Resort Directory.

No, RCI does not have a demand index but if you make the effort and take the needed time to become knownlegdeable about RCI you can figure out fairly close what ownerships weeks will be excellant traders or what their "RCI demand index" would be if they had a demand index.


But IMHO we really need to understand the differances in the formulas used in establishing exchange values for II and RCI's.

The reviewing and learning from old Tug, TS Today and TSTips posts can be very helpfull to gain that knowledge in order to make a intelligent buying decision.

Bruce

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Originally posted by IAMTHEWALRUS:
Where can one find this "demand index?" I'd love to see it. Does RCI have one as well?


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Bruce F. & Judy Czajkowski, Kansasville Wi. Judy is a teacher and Bruce is retired and thinks that you are never to old to have a happy childhood. Also own at Driftwood Inn, Vero Beach wk 14, wk 52 Sea Club IV,Daytona Beach Shores. Florida Bay Club in Key Largo and a Rayburn Country that is somewere in Texas.

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akdeweyj

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posted 04-14-2005 08:53     Click Here to See the Profile for akdeweyj   Click Here to Email akdeweyj     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote Post A Reply
7000 points and about $1100/annually

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PA

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posted 04-14-2005 09:03     Click Here to See the Profile for PA   Click Here to Email PA     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote Post A Reply
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Originally posted by akdeweyj:
7000 points and about $1100/annually

Apparently their maintenance fees/point is not a linear function. I have 1250 at over $400/year. It would be nice if that info were available. In asking for it, the "owner service" dept. said I needed to ask the sales dept. I tried that, they're too busy trying to make sales to mess with stuff like owners.

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cgeidl

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posted 04-14-2005 09:51     Click Here to See the Profile for cgeidl   Click Here to Email cgeidl     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote Post A Reply
WE bought 4 weeks for $1250 per week and there are still some homeowners association weeks available with maintenance of about $400 per week. They are small 1 Br about 600 sq ft but have a small kitchen and are clean and well mananged.We get two weeks for one on our deposits to II or TP. We chose to quit RCI after about 100 trades as we can get what we want faster ,
cheaper, and from a more friendly company.
We still use RCI and have won 5 auctions the last few years at Skyauction and get weeks from $196 to $286. Why use RCI when you can win their auction weeks for very little????????????
If you Email me I will give you a telephone number to contact if you want to buy a week . The first week is now $2000 and the second $1000 the laast time I checked.

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PA

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posted 04-14-2005 11:10     Click Here to See the Profile for PA   Click Here to Email PA     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote Post A Reply
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Originally posted by cgeidl:
WE bought 4 weeks for $1250 per week and there are still some homeowners association weeks available with maintenance of about $400 per week. They are small 1 Br about 600 sq ft but have a small kitchen and are clean and well mananged.We get two weeks for one on our deposits to II or TP. We chose to quit RCI after about 100 trades as we can get what we want faster ,
cheaper, and from a more friendly company.
We still use RCI and have won 5 auctions the last few years at Skyauction and get weeks from $196 to $286. Why use RCI when you can win their auction weeks for very little????????????
If you Email me I will give you a telephone number to contact if you want to buy a week . The first week is now $2000 and the second $1000 the laast time I checked.



Which resort are you talking about that has HOA weeks available for sale?

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mesa244

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posted 04-14-2005 13:48     Click Here to See the Profile for mesa244   Click Here to Email mesa244     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote Post A Reply
I have a timeshare in Sedona if interested.

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IAMTHEWALRUS

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posted 04-15-2005 08:32     Click Here to See the Profile for IAMTHEWALRUS     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote Post A Reply
I feel like I've taken a crash course in timesharing this week. Having been an owner for almost five years, I thought I knew a lot. I was wrong.

All things considered, we've decided to purchase four weeks at a resort in Washington. It converts to 140,000 RCI Points. And that suits are needs best.

We wanted access to RCI. We were looking for something similar to what we had - something with high trade value. But what we found is that a week we give up would be exchanged for just one week - unlike our timeshare in Key West, where we can give up our one week and have enough points (with II) to get two or three weeks per year at other resorts.

What we needed was enough points between RCI and II where we could take three week-long vacations per year, in 2-bedroom resorts, anytime, anywhere. With 140,000 RCI points, we will have way more than enough to do just that. And with the leftover RCI points, we can use them for car rentals or even airline tickets.

Anyway, thanks to everyone who responded and E-mailed. The $15.00 membership fee to TUG was a great investment. I've learned an awful lot this week.

And to think, we were all set to purchase a ton of points (and probably spend around $15,000) for Shell Vacation Points. Instead, I learned about resale, figured out exactly what we need, and am confident that we got a pretty good deal - 140,000 RCI points for $5200.00.

THANK YOU!

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LMills

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posted 05-26-2005 11:11     Click Here to See the Profile for LMills   Click Here to Email LMills     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote Post A Reply
Hi Walrus,
I am curious where you were able to get 150k points for $5k?
What resort are they associated with?
Thanks
Libby

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maiwah

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posted 05-26-2005 21:23     Click Here to See the Profile for maiwah     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote Post A Reply
CZ: 'The least amount of yearly RCI Points I would be comfortable with would be 500,000 RCI Points.'

500,000 RCI points? That is a lot of points per year. How do you use them?

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rickandcindy23

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posted 06-01-2005 15:20     Click Here to See the Profile for rickandcindy23   Click Here to Email rickandcindy23     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote Post A Reply
ALWAYS BUY HAWAII, ESPECIALLY MAUI! Demand is always more than supply of Hawaii weeks. Most of the people on this BBS that are concerned about their trades are trying to get into Hawaii. Why not buy a Hawaii week on the resale market that exchanges with II and take the accomodation certificate for an additional week in a two-bedroom for $299 every year?

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posted 06-03-2005 03:59     Click Here to See the Profile for dantthall   Click Here to Email dantthall     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote Post A Reply
Message deleted. Advertising is not permitted on the bbs, even in response to an existing post. Feel free to contact your intended individual directly.

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