posted 04-15-2005 10:31               

Perry, since you have other timeshare companies whose business models you seem to much prefer, I am a little surprised that you continue to post about Marriott so frequently. Why not just be happy with your WorldMark credits and/or buy Fairfield?

I have looked into WorldMark several times and concluded that it's probably not the program for me. I posted once or twice listing some of the things that I don't like about their business model, and then I moved on. I suppose that I could post negative comments about WorldMark in every thread on TUG where members discuss the company, but what purpose would that serve?

Don't misunderstand, you are free to post anything you want to about Marriott or any other company. I'm just not sure what purpose it serves. As you have stated, Marriott isn't going to be too concerned about your views (as a consistently negative former owner). They know that no company can please everyone. You are unlikely to stir up enough discontent that Marriott TUGGERS sell off their weeks in protest. So what really is the point of continuing to bash everything Marriott does?

Note to all: this is just my personal opinion, and NOT a statement as a TUG administrator.

Steve

posted 04-15-2005 11:33            

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Originally posted by Steve83014:
Perry, since you have other timeshare companies whose business models you seem to much prefer, I am a little surprised that you continue to post about Marriott so frequently. Why not just be happy with your WorldMark credits and/or buy Fairfield?

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posted 04-15-2005 14:23               

We came within a few seconds of buying a week 52 at St. Thomas. We decided at the last possible second not to.

That decision took a lot of soul searching concerning Marriott and because of the pressure to make a Go/No Go decision many of the items I have brought up in this section lead us to not buy.

We love Marriotts and I can see buying another one under the right circumstances. I view Marriott as the top timeshare developer and want to keep up on its activities.

I can understand that because of the fact I don’t have a Marriott under my listing of timeshares leads many to wonder why I am interested in Marriott.

(Actually, this second we still have a week 51 at MountainSide in our Marriott account that has yet to be moved to the new owner) So technically, I am a Marriott owner – if that makes some of you feel better.

Perry

posted 04-15-2005 17:09               

Based on your many, many negative posts regarding Marriott, I think you made a wise decision in not buying at the new resort on St. Thomas. I'm sure that if you had, there would have been many things that displeased you greatly. Why do business with a company that causes so much frustration for you? Save yourself the stress, and don't buy from Marriott. Stick with the companies you like the best.

In all seriousness, life's too short to do business with a vacation company that annoys you. Vacations should be fun!!! So buy more WorldMark credits, and give us Marriott owners a break. :-)

posted 04-15-2005 18:20            

If you don't agree with him, then either ignore it or make a counterpoint that you agree with. I don't consider it a very solid or frankly mature counterpoint saying something to the effect that you don't own it anymore so go away.

I don't think that Perry is completely anti-Marriott and in fact I've seen him give long and detailed non-controversial answers to a lot of people that have just had simple questions regarding Marriott. He's owned Marriott and has a lot of experience with MVCI.

posted 04-15-2005 19:22               

If it’s TUG position that my opinions and views are not acceptable to this discussion group, I will, of course, refrain from posting in this forum.

Please advise me what views I may express in this forum and perhaps some sort of a warning signal might be given to “keep me on the path” of views that are allowed here.

I remember that when BBS started many years ago there was a BBS where and administrator would “slap the user with a dead fish”. This, I guess, is acceptable to me.

posted 04-15-2005 19:29            

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Originally posted by Steve83014:
Note to all: this is just my personal opinion, and NOT a statement as a TUG administrator.

Steve

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Perry,

posted 04-15-2005 19:33               

Ahh, I thought that disclaimer applied to only that single post.

Sorry,

posted 04-15-2005 19:50               

Just to clarify a couple of points:

1) I think I stated very plainly that my comments were my own personal comments and NOT the official view of TUG. Since some have missed that, I'm repeating it again. TUG administrators have thoughts and views which have nothing to do with our role as administrators. I realize that we need to be more careful than the average TUG member, but I did at least attempt to state very plainly that these views are simply my own personal opinions.

2) I think I stated very clearly that no one should misunderstand and think that Perry, or anyone else for that matter, could not post anything they want to about Marriott or any other company. Indeed, I believe I used virtually those exact words. Let me repeat again that Perry, and everyone else, can say whatever they want to about Marriott: positive, negative, or indifferent.

Having said that, I still find it a bit odd that someone would want to continue to do business with a company that they have repeatedly criticized on multiple issues over a long period of time. I also sort of feel that if someone feels very negatively towards a timeshare company, and they have sold all of their weeks with that company, and if they then should choose to buy into that company again knowing full well all the things they don't like about the company, then they really shouldn't complain. And that is my PERSONAL opinion...not TUG policy.

It also seems like a person in that situation, having found another timeshare company which they prefer, might want to consider just enjoying the new company and not rehashing endlessly their dislike of the old one. And that, too, is my personal opinion...not TUG policy.

Sorry to have caused offense. I obviously should have kept these opinions to myself.

Steve

posted 04-15-2005 21:24               

There tends to be an attitude in many chat rooms which is referred to as the “Stockholm Syndrome” where folks start to concentrate ONLY on the good points and gloss over the no so good points – they take on the positions of the developer in a subconscious manner. Luckily I’ve been blessed with an analytical mind and am not that affected with this phenomenon.

I state once again that I do like Marriotts, we use them all the time, we just don’t happen to be owners right now but use them heavily in exchanges. I do have a keen interest in Marriott and I’m sure in the upcoming years we will once again become proud Marriott owners (resale probably, but who knows).

The main purpose of a chat room like TUG is to discuss diverse viewpoints. There are many on TUG that I disagree with (You know who you are) but I don’t tell them that because I differ from their views that they should go somewhere else – their views are not wanted in a particular thread. I learn from them and strive to improve my ability to discuss my view points.

So until I’m hit with a “dead fish in the face” I’ll continue to add my little 2¢ worth – please feel free to argue my views and logic – I do learn a lot on TUG and in return I’ve spent a lot of time trying to educate other TUG members.

posted 04-16-2005 06:06               

Brian

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Originally posted by Steve83014:
I'm sorry to have stirred up a feud on this thread. That was not my intent. I should have known better.

...I think I stated very plainly that my comments were my own personal comments and NOT the official view of TUG.

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posted 04-16-2005 07:52               

I also don't think Steve's comments were nasty. That is what makes this country, and this board great, differences of opinion. Read all the info that is available, and decide for yourself who more fits your way of thought, and enjoy.