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cindir4

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posted 05-30-2005 19:08     Click Here to See the Profile for cindir4   Click Here to Email cindir4     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote Post A Reply
I am going to make it easier to travel to Mexico by getting my first passport.

My question is, do I have to put my legal name on the passport? My drivers license is under Cindi, but that is not my legal name. I have all my credit cards, car loans, etc under Cindi. I thought I read that your passport and ID have to match exactly for names?

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wfillion

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posted 05-30-2005 19:24     Click Here to See the Profile for wfillion   Click Here to Email wfillion     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote Post A Reply
You must supply a birth certificate with your application. If the name on the application doesn't match the one on the birth certificate I think you will have problems.

//travel.state.gov/passport/get/first/first_832.html

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Icarus

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posted 05-30-2005 23:57     Click Here to See the Profile for Icarus   Click Here to Email Icarus     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote Post A Reply
http://travel.state.gov/passport/get/first/first_832.html

-David

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cymomtx

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posted 05-31-2005 06:02     Click Here to See the Profile for cymomtx   Click Here to Email cymomtx     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote Post A Reply
Your passport will reflect the name on your social security card.

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Jim C

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posted 05-31-2005 11:55     Click Here to See the Profile for Jim C   Click Here to Email Jim C     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote Post A Reply
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Originally posted by cymomtx:
Your passport will reflect the name on your social security card.


I don't think so. Never used my social security card as a form of identification when applying for or renewing my passport. It's not supposed to be used for that purpose. The name will be the same as the one on your birth certificate, marraige license or whatever form of identification you submit with your application.

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cindir4

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posted 05-31-2005 14:59     Click Here to See the Profile for cindir4   Click Here to Email cindir4     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote Post A Reply
That is what I figured, that it would be listed as my "formal" name. So what happens if I use that and then my drivers license has my nick name? I sure don't want to have to try to change my drivers license! I don't have anything else with my given name on it I can use for ID.

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cindir4

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posted 05-31-2005 15:00     Click Here to See the Profile for cindir4   Click Here to Email cindir4     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote Post A Reply
David,

Thanks for the link. LOTS of great info on there. I actually filled out the application online and then printed it out all filled in. But now I suppose I have to redo it, since it would have to be the name on my birth certificate or marriage license. Hmmm, I wonder where my marriage license IS?? !!

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Originally posted by Icarus:
http://travel.state.gov/passport/get/first/first_832.html

-David



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geekette

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posted 06-01-2005 10:07     Click Here to See the Profile for geekette   Click Here to Email geekette     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote Post A Reply
Me too: I'm only Victoria when I have to be. I think the key is that you are recognizable, or provide a lot of id (library cards were even mentioned). We aren't the first people with nicknames, altho I did get my license with my full legal name.

I didn't see any reference to marriage license in there, tho. Whew, that's something I really don't think I can produce, but I can see why my birth certificate with my maiden name won't do it. County offices should have copies of all that, right?

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Luanne

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posted 06-01-2005 10:37     Click Here to See the Profile for Luanne   Click Here to Email Luanne     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote Post A Reply
quote:
Originally posted by geekette:
I didn't see any reference to marriage license in there, tho. Whew, that's something I really don't think I can produce, but I can see why my birth certificate with my maiden name won't do it. County offices should have copies of all that, right?

I applied for a passport a couple of years ago. I know I had to produce my birth certificate, but I'm pretty sure I didn't have to show my marriage license. Maybe my driver's license was enough to show my current legal name????

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debraxh

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posted 06-01-2005 11:54     Click Here to See the Profile for debraxh   Click Here to Email debraxh     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote Post A Reply
I had to provide both birth & marriage cert. If you don't have your marriage cert you should be able to get a copy from the county in which you were married.

This was just over 10 years ago, so rules may have changed, but the theory was how could they verify you are the same person without both?

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Luanne

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posted 06-01-2005 12:55     Click Here to See the Profile for Luanne   Click Here to Email Luanne     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote Post A Reply
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Originally posted by debraxh:
I had to provide both birth & marriage cert. If you don't have your marriage cert you should be able to get a copy from the county in which you were married.

This was just over 10 years ago, so rules may have changed, but the theory was how could they verify you are the same person without both?


Oh I may have had to provide both, I just don't remember. I do remember that I tried to go in with a "Certificate of Live Birth", which is NOT a birth certificate and wasn't allowed to use that. I send away to get a copy of my birth certificate. And of course wouldn't you know that right after I got the new one I found my original. My filing system was fine, it's my memory that's shot.

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cindir4

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posted 06-01-2005 15:22     Click Here to See the Profile for cindir4   Click Here to Email cindir4     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote Post A Reply
Well, for me, it gets worse. How many doggone documents am I going to have to come up with? I was married for a couple of years many years ago (almost another lifetime) so do I need my first marriage certificate, my divorce papers, my SECOND marriage certificate, etc??? This is going to be one heck of a paper trail if I do. Plus I honestly have absolutely no idea where or even if I have copies of my first marriage or divorce papers. This is becoming much too difficult.

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wfillion

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posted 06-01-2005 15:38     Click Here to See the Profile for wfillion   Click Here to Email wfillion     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote Post A Reply
You shouldn't need the first marriage documents. You just need to show a connection from the name on your birth certificate to your most recent married name as that will be name on passport.

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Jim C

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posted 06-01-2005 16:36     Click Here to See the Profile for Jim C   Click Here to Email Jim C     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote Post A Reply
[QUOTE]Originally posted by cindir4:
[B]Well, for me, it gets worse. How many doggone documents am I going to have to come up with? I was married for a couple of years many years ago (almost another lifetime) so do I need my first marriage certificate, my divorce papers, my SECOND marriage certificate, etc??? This is going to be one heck of a paper trail if I do. Plus I honestly have absolutely no idea where or even if I have copies of my first marriage or divorce papers. This is becoming much too difficult.


Cindi, You're MAKING this much more difficult than it needs to be. Have you actually read the instructions and application? It's so simple, just follow the instructions and provide the identification document(s) required. Have everything processed and validated at your County Clerk's office or wherever else you may be able to do it. That's it. Oh, be sure to include the proper payment.


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Luanne

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posted 06-01-2005 17:55     Click Here to See the Profile for Luanne   Click Here to Email Luanne     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote Post A Reply
For some bizarre reason I kept some of the paperwork from when I applied for my passport. One of them was a checklist of the "stuff" I had to include. No mention of a marriage license. What I needed was by birth certificate and driver's license.

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Zib

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posted 06-01-2005 18:22     Click Here to See the Profile for Zib   Click Here to Email Zib     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote Post A Reply
I've had a Passport for years. I had to renew twice. Same with my husband and many of my kids. None of us ever had to produce our marrage certificates. We only had our birth certificates (original copy)and drivers lisence.

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Icarus

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posted 06-01-2005 19:46     Click Here to See the Profile for Icarus   Click Here to Email Icarus     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote Post A Reply
I don't know about needing to produce a marriage license, but the paperwork requirements are probably different if your current legal name doesn't match the name on your birth certificate. As with all things security related, the requirements may have changed since your last application or renewal.

Once you do this once, just keep renewing the passport before it expires, and you'll never have to do the supporing paperwork again. I just sent in my renewal since mine's expiring in November. Fill out a form, send it in with the old passport and two new passport pictures and then in several weeks I'll get the old one and the new one back. The old one will be marked as "invalid". (My previous expired passport has a hole punched in it. I have no idea what they're doing now.)

-David


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cindir4

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posted 06-02-2005 16:32     Click Here to See the Profile for cindir4   Click Here to Email cindir4     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote Post A Reply
Heck with it. I have just decided to show up with my birth certificate and my drivers license and see what happens. I can't find anywhere in reading through the info that I need all that stuff, but I can't imagine how they can connect two totally different names together with any confidence with just those two documents.

I am sure they would be MORE than happy to tell me to go away and come back with whatever I am missing.

And this whole topic started with just wanting to know what would happen if the drivers license and passport didn't match first names.

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Luanne

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posted 06-02-2005 17:11     Click Here to See the Profile for Luanne   Click Here to Email Luanne     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote Post A Reply
quote:
Originally posted by cindir4:
I am sure they would be MORE than happy to tell me to go away and come back with whatever I am missing.

You bet. That's what they did with me when I tried to pass off my "Certificate of Live Birth" in place of a real birth certificate.

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lawren2

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posted 06-03-2005 12:26     Click Here to See the Profile for lawren2   Click Here to Email lawren2     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote Post A Reply
Cindi,

I didn't want to say anything until my passport came back ( which it did today ). My passport under my maiden name had expired for more than 5 years so I went to our local office for a new one in my married name.

The only thing I needed was my birth certificate, my driver's license and the appropriate form. I had my marriage license with me but they never asked me to produce it. ( Come to think of it, I was only asked to produce the driver's license when they were doing our under age son's application.)

It's really not that awful a procedure.

BTW you can save a few dollars and some time by having the passport pictures taken at a store before you go to the county clerk.

Good Luck!

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Luanne

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posted 06-03-2005 12:31     Click Here to See the Profile for Luanne   Click Here to Email Luanne     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote Post A Reply
quote:
Originally posted by lawren2:

BTW you can save a few dollars and some time by having the passport pictures taken at a store before you go to the county clerk.

I had to take pictures with me. If not, it would have been another one of those items they would have sent me out to get.

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cindir4

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posted 06-03-2005 14:28     Click Here to See the Profile for cindir4   Click Here to Email cindir4     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote Post A Reply
Well, I just showed up with my birth certificate in hand (and the form I filled out online) and they took the pictures and my $$ and that was it. They didn't seem too concerned with the difference between Cynthia and Cindi either. They said usually as long as it is a derrivation of your formal name there isn't any problem.

So now I wait. Any bets it will come back ok?

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