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eipheltower

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From: philadelphia
Registered: Oct 2003

posted 01-15-2005 05:22     Click Here to See the Profile for eipheltower   Click Here to Email eipheltower     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote Post A Reply
quote:
Originally posted by sb1070:
It's a device used to contain water. Get a life!

Well, sb1070: you are new here. Anytime, you post anything about HGVC etc. Ricoba, iiderman, callihockey... will jump on that and make quite a mess. These people have nothing better to do so they must do this. There are some good people here so just ignore these people. Do not respond to them; they do not deserve a response.

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Dave32

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From: Miami, Florida
Registered: Sep 2004

posted 01-15-2005 06:30     Click Here to See the Profile for Dave32   Click Here to Email Dave32     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote Post A Reply
Ssb1070

It is clear that you can read, however, it is also clear that you do not understand what you read. No one is trying to shut you down. Quite the contrary, we want to hear what you have to say. Please attend the next annual owners meeting to discuss your concerns. Plese refrain from using some of the 4 letter words you have used in your previous postings (s**t, h**l, s*x).

I have read and understand your one time experience at HGVC seaworld; I kindly ask that you read and understand my previous seven stays at various HGVC resorts.

1-) My room key has worked the first time I tried it, in any of my previous stays. Are you certain that you were inserting the key the correct way?

2-) The staff members whom I have spoken with have been curteous and polite. I am sure HGVC has some staff members who are rude, however, I have not come across any.

3-) I have not been given a wrong room key, or seen other "naked people" (I hope whom you saw were Paris and Niki).

4-) Some of the staff members do have heavy accents, however, their English is fine. It is the same experience when I travel to any major city, (NYC, Boston, SF, LA, Hawaii, London, etc.).

5-) When I stay in other resorts I respect other peoples' privacy and try not to "overhear" their conversations unless the conversation is loud enough to be unavoidable. However, I will not make assumptions, or judgements based on something I "overheard". I am sure that each member is able to speak for his / her own experience so we can get the whole story, not just the portion that was "overheard".

6-) As a member I respect my fellow members, if the sign says "no smoking" I do not smoke.

7-)I can not recall the status of towels or light bulbs in past stays, so I can not comment on that. I will make a note of it during my next stay.

8-) The pool in seaworld is crowded with kids. My daughter likes that, so she stays. I give her 30 bucks so she can get some hair braids, lunch, ice cream, and play video games with her friends. I go to the other secluded pool where I can relax.

9-) The rooms are 9 years old, however, I feel that they are well maintained.


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sb1070

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From: Harrisburg, PA HGVC Seaworld Sunterra Powhatan Plantation
Registered: Aug 2004

posted 01-15-2005 08:31     Click Here to See the Profile for sb1070     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote Post A Reply
Dave
I'm glad that every visit to HGVC for you is perfect and without incident, however just because you didn't have any problems while there doesn't mean a thing, and I fail to understand your post.

Dave32
"No one is trying to shut you down"
"Quite the contrary, we want to hear what you have to say"

Ricoba

"But, why do you want to pop Travel Girls bubble?"

"I just don't understand why a total stranger would want to poison someone elses potentially good experience"

"My suggestion is that you sell your HGVC and move on"

iiderman
"I'm not sure what resort sb1070 is talking about but it is not HGVC @ Seaworld!"

Now if I have to I will dig up previous posts that were equally disparaging. When Travel Girl posted her request for owner experiences I only responded with a few but I could have written a book covering all the issues I've had with HGVC and it isn't isolated to the resort staff and certainly didn't start there.

I will not be silenced. Not even by the accusations of imaginary emails.

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iiderman

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From: Bethesda, MD HGVC Seaworld Orlando, HGVC Valdoro Mountain Lodge
Registered: Sep 2003

posted 01-15-2005 11:40     Click Here to See the Profile for iiderman   Click Here to Email iiderman     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote Post A Reply
Travel Girl, I think you will find much advice and information on HGVC Seaworld on the internet. I strongly recommend that first you read the reviews here on TUG under the resort databases. You can also do a search for HGVC on the BBS that can pull up all recent and archived posts on HGVC Seaworld. Then go to RCI Community and read the many resort journals posted there. You can also read reviews on various other sites like Redweek and Myresortnetwork.com where rentals for HGVC Seaworld are being advertised. Once you have read all that is out there you will find that the overwhelming majority have great things to say about this resort. Do not let an isolated bad experience effect your decision or your vacation! Also keep in mind that while most of the people who frequent these boards are looking to exchange advice to enhance their travel experiences, unfortunately others lurk around with a totally different agenda. If you do end up going, please write a review and maybe even bump this thread so we can hear about your experience. Enjoy!

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Maverick1963

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From: Yokomaha, Japan
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posted 01-15-2005 20:15     Click Here to See the Profile for Maverick1963     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote Post A Reply
If someone bought TS from a developer at a high price and they could not meet his or her expectations, s/he could go mad. That is quite understandable. And I feel sorry for that.

I have been flying with United over ten years, but once (just one time) I found myself touching sperm in a sanitary bag in the seat pocket. (Very true even though there is no way to prove my experience now.) So the last things you expect to happen do happen in this world, that I understand.

There is a certain kind of people in this world who complains about even world class services or products. So it will not be unusual if someone hates HGVC or any specific resort. That is just because the judgement is based on his or her personal experiences and sense of values.

I just don't understand and support act of only throwing out personal, bad experiences at this BBS. I love the phrase - "Good judgement comes from experiences. Experience comes from bad judgement." I can see this rule applied here at TUG BBS. I persoally respect people who share not only bad expereinecs but also bad judgement because it is really difficult for anyone to accept the fact that you have made a bad judgement.

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phyllisnnj

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From: New Jersey
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posted 01-15-2005 20:24     Click Here to See the Profile for phyllisnnj     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote Post A Reply
Travel Girl I hope you have a wonderful time.

I haven't stayed at the Sea World location (eventhough SeaWorld is one of the HGVC that I own) but I've stayed at several other HGVC locations. I've run into maintenance issues with each HGVC trip. I've been disappointed but I haven't let it ruin my trip. I just pack cleaning stuff with me and stay at the newer HGVC resorts.

I suggest that you throughly inspect the villa before you unpack just in case you need to change rooms. I also found it helpful to make a list and take digital photos of the problems and then head over to the front desk to discuss the issues in person rather than calling. I actually discuss each item on the list with them and show them the digital photos on my camera so they can completely understand my issue. Sometime they don't address all of the issues on my list but as long as the bigger issues are resolved I'm generally happy.

Here's a website with HGVC SeaWorld reviews
http://www.tripadvisor.com/Hotel_Review-g34515-d223711-Reviews-Hilton_Grand_Vacations_Club_at_Sea_World_Int_l_Center-Orlando_Florida.html

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sb1070

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From: Harrisburg, PA HGVC Seaworld Sunterra Powhatan Plantation
Registered: Aug 2004

posted 01-16-2005 06:42     Click Here to See the Profile for sb1070     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote Post A Reply
WOW! People on here love to make assumptions. When Hilton does something right, I'll be thrilled to report it, but since to date I've only experienced poor service and excuses for it, I'm not going to make something up.

Furthermore since I seem to be the only person who doesn't work for Hilton there's no shortage of questionably positive reviews.

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onlyholly

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From: UK
Registered: Jun 2003

posted 01-16-2005 08:33     Click Here to See the Profile for onlyholly     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote Post A Reply
Neither of us work for Hilton so what I have to say is pure experience. We've been members since 1998 at Seaworld and over a year ago bought at the new Tuscany Village (a gem).

We've been very happy with our purchases and can only say it is the best thing we ever did as we couldn't have afforded the luxury accommodation otherwise. Coming from the UK is expensive enough for the airfare without paying over the odds for accommodation. We could never go back to staying in a hotel room either.

We have had our niggles with Hilton/housekeeping but only minor things like light bulbs, towels etc and believe me I'm a fussy/hard person to please. Whenever we've had a complaint it's been sorted out straight away - no hastle.

During our last visit in August we were booked into a 2 bedroom unit on Marco Island and were evacuated almost immediately (no time to check-in)due to Hurricane Charley. We spent an hour or so getting Hilton to accommodate us in Orlando (as did thousands of others) and were eventually given a studio (not ideal for the three of us but nothing else available). The studio wasn't up to scratch but as soon as we told Hilton of the problem/s we were refunded the points and given a complimentary 4 night stay in a 2 bed unit. All it took was a couple of emails and a bit of polite persuation.

We are using our points to stay in South Africa this year and are saving an absolute fortune. If we had to pay out our pocket we wouldn't be able to afford our chosen resort.

We are more than pleased with our purchases and would highly recommend Hilton.

Holly

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travel girl

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From: Washington
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posted 01-16-2005 16:42     Click Here to See the Profile for travel girl   Click Here to Email travel girl     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote Post A Reply
Holly -

I had the fortunate experience to travel to South Africa last August for work. You will love it! It is a beautiful country with much interesting history! Please don't miss the following things in Cape Town if at all possible:

Boat trip to Robin Island where they held Mandela - very emotional, but the tour guides were either inmates or guards of the facility and it is facinating.

Historical site of District 6 and the meuseum. Again, heart wrenching but well worth the experience

Clifton Beach - one of Travel Channels top 10 beaches and lovely

Of course all of the waterfront - fun shopping!

The Sunday market - can't remember the name, but it is wonderful and so many great things to purchase, you can hardly carry them home

Keep a hold of your purse, don't travel alone or in the evenings by foot - they really do mean it!

Have a wonderful time! I wish I could afford the air fare to take my family - maybe I will get another opportunity with work someday!

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onlyholly

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posted 01-18-2005 12:16     Click Here to See the Profile for onlyholly     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote Post A Reply
Thanks for your recommendations regarding South Africa. Yes you're right it is a fabulous country - I was brought up there and managed to persuade my Husband to take a vacation last Easter. Both my Husband and Son loved it so that's why we are returning. Can't wait as we have 1 week on Safari and 2 weeks in different parts of the Drakensberg. We've done most places in South Africa now so we tend to go back to our favourite places.

Holly

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cclendinen

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From: Cocoa, Florida USA Owns:Royal Host Club Holly Bluff (Houseboat) Fantasy Holiday Club (Motorhome) Rayburn Country Resort (Points)
Registered: Oct 2003

posted 01-20-2005 10:51     Click Here to See the Profile for cclendinen   Click Here to Email cclendinen     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote Post A Reply
We stayed at HGVC Seaworld the 10th of Dec. 2004 3br lockout. It was very nice and the HGVC staff were some of the most accomodating people we have meet with any TS. We asked ahead of time for Building, floor, and side of the building facing Seaworld and got it all. Upon leaving with could not find a lugage cart and a maintenance person went beyound the call of duty to find us one. When we were asked if we wanted to attend a TS presentation we declined and were never bothered again.

The only negitive experence was they gave us a card for a welcome package and the person was never there to give us the package.

HGVC is a very nice place in great location for visiting the attractions.

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Revmmup
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posted 01-22-2005 07:49           Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote Post A Reply
I could have written a book covering all the issues I've had with HGVC and it isn't isolated to the resort staff and certainly didn't start there.

I really doubt it would sell becasue I do not believe one word you are saying. I think you just like baiting people and probably are a very unhappy person and negative person in all your dealings in life.

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HGVC/Las Vegas Hilton,
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BocaBum99

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posted 01-22-2005 18:41     Click Here to See the Profile for BocaBum99   Click Here to Email BocaBum99     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote Post A Reply
sb1070,

I am not surprised that you had a poor experience at HGVC. Having read this message thread for the first time, it's clear by reading your posts that you purposefully pick a fight and you are quite a negative person. I bet you always have poor experiences wherever you go.

I am going to HGVC Orlando in May and I am really looking forward to it. Your comments have been noted, but and discounted accordingly.

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calihockey33

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posted 01-22-2005 19:48     Click Here to See the Profile for calihockey33   Click Here to Email calihockey33     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote Post A Reply
Boca,

He is being nice in this thread compared to most of the ones he's been involved in.

I think someone had an unhappy childhood

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sethnock

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From: New York, NY Own: HGVC Las Vegas,Orlando & Flamingo, Hyatt, Marriott Desert Springs, Marriott Summit Watch, Manhattan Club
Registered: Jun 2002

posted 01-22-2005 23:21     Click Here to See the Profile for sethnock   Click Here to Email sethnock     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote Post A Reply
SB1070,
You have made comments about your stay. Is that just one stay or many. If you feel as strong as you seem to, why not send an email or a letter to Kim Kreiger. I am sure he would be very happy to address your concerns with the resort staff and managers, if he has not done so already. Hilton does pride themselves on the superior service that most of us have experienced when vacationing. Once you make management aware of your concerns, hopefully you will have positive experiences also.

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iiderman

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From: Bethesda, MD HGVC Seaworld Orlando, HGVC Valdoro Mountain Lodge
Registered: Sep 2003

posted 01-24-2005 05:50     Click Here to See the Profile for iiderman   Click Here to Email iiderman     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote Post A Reply
quote:
Originally posted by sb1070:
WOW! People on here love to make assumptions. When Hilton does something right, I'll be thrilled to report it, but since to date I've only experienced poor service and excuses for it, I'm not going to make something up.

Furthermore since I seem to be the only person who doesn't work for Hilton there's no shortage of questionably positive reviews.


sb1070, I don't work for Hilton.. Hilton works for me!


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kter

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From: Florida. bay club, shell island
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posted 01-24-2005 10:00     Click Here to See the Profile for kter   Click Here to Email kter     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote Post A Reply
quote:
Originally posted by sb1070:
the resort staff gave me keys to a villa that was occupided by other naked people ...

Other naked people?"

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sb1070

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From: Harrisburg, PA HGVC Seaworld Sunterra Powhatan Plantation
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posted 01-24-2005 13:52     Click Here to See the Profile for sb1070     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote Post A Reply
How am I picking a fight? In the begining I shared a few problems I was having with HGVC and I was slammed for it and called a liar.

From that point forward I've been attacked for sharing my experiences with Hilton. I never asked anyone to share my opinion. I never expected anyone to agree with me, I simply used this forum for what it's intended to do and I've been treated extremely unfairly for it.

Most people that post on this board have had good experiences with HGVC, maybe some day I will too. I think it's sad that as a owner I can not ever feel free to use this board without having my character attacked by those who feel they have the right to do so.

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chesterbhoy

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From: Ellesmere Port, Cheshire, UK. 2BR @ Hilton GVC on International Drive, Orlando (Tuscany)
Registered: Dec 2004

posted 01-27-2005 03:22     Click Here to See the Profile for chesterbhoy   Click Here to Email chesterbhoy     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote Post A Reply
We had some problems when we stayed at the new HGVC on International Drive - Tuscany (October 2004). We initially put these down to new complex teething problems.

But we have since then written a number of letters/emails, including one to Antoine Dagot - President and Chief Executive Officer, but have had no reply. We recently got a voice mail message from Kevin Lang - General Manager, but no follow-up dispite a number of emails direct to him.

We are not convinced yet that HGVC do enough to resolve problems, but we are willing to give them a number of chances and not judge on only one stay. We cannot fault their service at their Hotels, but the HGVC has not yet lived up to our expected level of customer service.

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calihockey33

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posted 01-27-2005 10:22     Click Here to See the Profile for calihockey33   Click Here to Email calihockey33     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote Post A Reply
quote:
Originally posted by chesterbhoy:
We had some problems when we stayed at the new HGVC on International Drive - Tuscany (October 2004). We initially put these down to new complex teething problems.

But we have since then written a number of letters/emails, including one to Antoine Dagot - President and Chief Executive Officer, but have had no reply. We recently got a voice mail message from Kevin Lang - General Manager, but no follow-up dispite a number of emails direct to him.

We are not convinced yet that HGVC do enough to resolve problems, but we are willing to give them a number of chances and not judge on only one stay. We cannot fault their service at their Hotels, but the HGVC has not yet lived up to our expected level of customer service.


What kind of problems are you having?

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chesterbhoy

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From: Ellesmere Port, Cheshire, UK. 2BR @ Hilton GVC on International Drive, Orlando (Tuscany)
Registered: Dec 2004

posted 01-27-2005 11:01     Click Here to See the Profile for chesterbhoy   Click Here to Email chesterbhoy     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote Post A Reply
1. There was no 3BR available when we arrived (although checked and confirmed the day before). We were sent to Seaworld - who had no rooms - then back to Int Dr and used their sales suite for one night and then moved to our booked 3BR for remainder of stay.

2. Deli staff were not very efficient, actually very rude! Our reservation was initially done through hilton hotels and was for full american breakfast...we got a begal, coffee and juice.

3. We left personal items to a value of $2k (£1k) in the room when we checked-out. These have never been found and no real interest from staff or management.

4. No response to a number of letter direct to resort general manager. Limited response when escalated.

5. Chasing for money after 30days, when we agreed 60days. Then tried to charge interest.

6. Then although promised we could use bonus points just like other club points, appears we were missed informed by sales.

These are minor points, but leaves a very bad taste in our mouths......We have found if you complain HGVC eventually response, but we had hoped it would be good 1st time round.

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sb1070

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From: Harrisburg, PA HGVC Seaworld Sunterra Powhatan Plantation
Registered: Aug 2004

posted 01-27-2005 12:17     Click Here to See the Profile for sb1070     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote Post A Reply
Rude, unconcerned employees is the HGVC way. The onsite sales people sold used cars before they went to work for HGVC.

My 3rd stay at Seaworld was better than the first 2, but despite that I've given up on expecting Gold Crown service for Hilton.

I hope things work out for you on your next trip. You're in the right place for fantasy island stories, NO problems with HGVC around here.

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