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chesterbhoy

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From: Ellesmere Port, Cheshire, UK. 2BR @ Hilton GVC on International Drive, Orlando (Tuscany)
Registered: Dec 2004

posted 02-05-2005 01:33     Click Here to See the Profile for chesterbhoy   Click Here to Email chesterbhoy     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote Post A Reply
Vicki, I would be very interested to know how you obtained lifetime gold status.

Due to work, I have stayed in Hilton hotels for the last 3 years, hence have over 500,000 hhonors points and like the benefit the gold card provides and had some great holidays (Mauritius, Barcelona, Dublin & Orlando). However, I will be changing job and will not need to travel as much (we hope), hence will very quickly loose the gold card benefits.

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llandaff

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From: Chandler AZ - Owner: HGVC at Hilton Hawaiian Village
Registered: Mar 2002

posted 02-06-2005 00:38     Click Here to See the Profile for llandaff     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote Post A Reply
Lifetime gold Honors status is one benefit of being an HGVC "Elite" member. I believe you need to own 14,000 HGVC points to qualify, but I'm not sure of the exact details. If you do a search for "HGVC elite" you should see some posts which give you more information; otherwise someone here will probably see this and respond.

We are in the same situation regarding Hilton Honors. We have been gold and now platinum for the past few years but my husband has stopped traveling (or "travelling" for us Brits!) and we are really going to miss the upgrades and free breakfasts. Make sure you keep an eye on the Hilton board at www.flyertalk.com as then you will know if any 'fast track' promotions become available (that is, they occasionally allow you to qualify for gold or platinum with many less stays than the usual 16 or 28).

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floyddl

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From: Raleigh, NC
Registered: Nov 2004

posted 02-10-2005 14:06     Click Here to See the Profile for floyddl   Click Here to Email floyddl     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote Post A Reply
I have had poor luck with trades requested with HGVC thru RCI. I have tried three times and only one was filled with that being for HGVC Orlando. The others were for Park City at New Years week and the other for Aruba at Easter week. Granted the two that were not filled were requests for high demand weeks but it demonstrated to me that the HGVC does not have a high trading power. I think if you have points you may end up losing the best thing to do is start a search for another Hilton property that you would like to visit or lower your standards some for the calibre of resort you desire.

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eipheltower

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From: philadelphia
Registered: Oct 2003

posted 02-10-2005 17:09     Click Here to See the Profile for eipheltower   Click Here to Email eipheltower     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote Post A Reply
quote:
Originally posted by floyddl:
I have had poor luck with trades requested with HGVC thru RCI. I have tried three times and only one was filled with that being for HGVC Orlando. The others were for Park City at New Years week and the other for Aruba at Easter week. Granted the two that were not filled were requests for high demand weeks but it demonstrated to me that the HGVC does not have a high trading power. I think if you have points you may end up losing the best thing to do is start a search for another Hilton property that you would like to visit or lower your standards some for the calibre of resort you desire.

I fully agree with you.

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iiderman

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From: Bethesda, MD HGVC Seaworld Orlando, HGVC Valdoro Mountain Lodge
Registered: Sep 2003

posted 02-11-2005 07:01     Click Here to See the Profile for iiderman   Click Here to Email iiderman     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote Post A Reply
quote:
Originally posted by floyddl:
The others were for Park City at New Years week and the other for Aruba at Easter week.

Hi Floyddl.. Park City week 52 is a virtually impossible exchange regardless where or with whom you own. Owners of these units have paid sometimes 6 digit prices for such units and will not bank them. They can get $5000 or more for their week when they rent out if it's a slopeside Gold Crown unit. If you want a ski vacation during week 52 you have to buy the week. As for your second search to Aruba, while this is considered a difficult trade, it should not be hard with HGVC. How far in advance did you start your search? And how wide was your search? I've found that when I begin my search 24-18 months out and broaden it out to at least 5 or 6 resorts, my requests are always filled even for high peak demand resorts like this one.

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floyddl

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From: Raleigh, NC
Registered: Nov 2004

posted 02-11-2005 11:19     Click Here to See the Profile for floyddl   Click Here to Email floyddl     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote Post A Reply
Actually, I own a Marriott as well and I have been able to successfully trade into Week 52 at Mountainside 4 out of the last 5 years. I even saw two week 52s in Interval International that were late deposits about 3 weeks beforehand. I realize that a lot of people have spent big bucks for that week but there are still some that did not sell week 52 as a fixed week. The request I submitted for Park City was about 10 months in advance. I even included Valdoro in that request with no luck. The Aruba request was about 6 months in advance and actually is still ongoing for next month. The thing that amazes me is that you cannot get at least a late deposit to match up. If HGVC were carrying solid trading power then you would think that it would trumph others when the late deposits come in.

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calihockey33

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From: So California, USA
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posted 02-11-2005 12:15     Click Here to See the Profile for calihockey33   Click Here to Email calihockey33     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote Post A Reply
quote:
Originally posted by floyddl:
Actually, I own a Marriott as well and I have been able to successfully trade into Week 52 at Mountainside 4 out of the last 5 years. I even saw two week 52s in Interval International that were late deposits about 3 weeks beforehand. I realize that a lot of people have spent big bucks for that week but there are still some that did not sell week 52 as a fixed week. The request I submitted for Park City was about 10 months in advance. I even included Valdoro in that request with no luck. The Aruba request was about 6 months in advance and actually is still ongoing for next month. The thing that amazes me is that you cannot get at least a late deposit to match up. If HGVC were carrying solid trading power then you would think that it would trumph others when the late deposits come in.

You aren't searching far enough in advance for those prime weeks.With Marriott you have internal Marriott preference.
HGVC will not come in and "trump" any other week in an ongoing search. it seems like you don;t know how the ongoing search works.
Lets say I have a cheap Studio So Cal Coastal week.. This week has enough trading power to get Park City week 52. I request 11 months in advance, my exchange will be matched before your 10 month HGVC deposit.
Search early.. Thats the key
Everyone that has the trading power that started searching before you is already in line and you can't take "cuts", just because you own a better resort.
That's RCI guidelines, nothing to do with HGVC.


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eipheltower

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From: philadelphia
Registered: Oct 2003

posted 02-11-2005 13:21     Click Here to See the Profile for eipheltower   Click Here to Email eipheltower     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote Post A Reply
quote:
Originally posted by calihockey33:
You aren't searching far enough in advance for those prime weeks.With Marriott you have internal Marriott preference.
HGVC will not come in and "trump" any other week in an ongoing search. it seems like you don;t know how the ongoing search works.
Lets say I have a cheap Studio So Cal Coastal week.. This week has enough trading power to get Park City week 52. I request 11 months in advance, my exchange will be matched before your 10 month HGVC deposit.
Search early.. Thats the key
Everyone that has the trading power that started searching before you is already in line and you can't take "cuts", just because you own a better resort.
That's RCI guidelines, nothing to do with HGVC.


Let's face it. HGVC screwed up the RCI exchange system for its members. It is deliberate.

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floyddl

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From: Raleigh, NC
Registered: Nov 2004

posted 02-11-2005 13:42     Click Here to See the Profile for floyddl   Click Here to Email floyddl     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote Post A Reply
I don't understand how it works. I know RCI claims to place a value on the length of time in advance a request is placed. I also know they place a value on the earlier you deposit. I know they also place a value on the location and color of the week that you deposit. How much value is placed on each is a complete mystery to me. I find it hard to believe that an early request carries more weight than the others but that could be the case. I have only been interested in using the HGVC points for an RCI trade when I was in a position where I might lose them and not because I want to go to another RCI resort.

Interval International supposedly places no value on the early request. When a week comes available they assign it to the person who has offered the most desirable location and week for a trade. They also place little value on how early the deposit comes in. They may use the timing where they need to break a tie but the most important factor is what you are trading in.

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