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SallyB

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posted 01-03-2002 17:01     Click Here to See the Profile for SallyB   Click Here to Email SallyB     
The seller I've been corresponding with over the sale of a cheap and cheerful t/s in Ormond Beach says that a "QUIT CLAIM DEED" will be enough to transfer the t/s into my name.

I was expecting to have to pay closing fees etc through a solicitor/agent and this took me by surprise. What is it and is it enough?

I'm in the U.K. and as you could expect not too familiar with Florida law.

Sally

Mel3PO

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posted 01-03-2002 17:20     Click Here to See the Profile for Mel3PO   Click Here to Email Mel3PO     
It might be. A quitclaim deed says I grant to you whatever interest I have in the property. It does not say that all liens are paid or that my interest is the only interest in the property. Check with the resort for ownership info, mf, assessments,taxes, etc.
If it's cheap enough and the resort says it looks clean you might want to take a chance.
I am not a lawyer.


ttt

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posted 01-03-2002 17:20     Click Here to See the Profile for ttt   Click Here to Email ttt     
A quit claim deed will usually work fine. Just check with the resort to make sure.


snelson

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posted 01-03-2002 17:31     Click Here to See the Profile for snelson   Click Here to Email snelson     
I think it depends on how the deed is worded.

Often a quit claim simply says something such as, "In exchange for valuable consideration, I relinquish and quit any claim I may have in the property described as ..."

In other cases it may have language saying that they are quitting their claim and transferring all of their claim to title to the named individual.

Note that this says nothing about whether the person's claim to the property is valid in the first place, or that they are the sole owner of the property. So, if I were relying on a quit claim, I would want to be sure that the deed included those representations.

It has always seemed to me that a quit claim is most useful and appropriate when someone's name is being removed from a title, rather than to transfer title. I prefer title transfer using a grant deed or warrant deed, since those documents are designed to transfer title, not simply relinquish a claim.

The next question you need to consider is whether the person selling the property is the sole owner of the property. For some information on that topic, go this web page:

verifying title to real estate and recording of deeds.

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bdurstta

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posted 01-04-2002 07:46     Click Here to See the Profile for bdurstta   Click Here to Email bdurstta     
I just bought a t/s like this, with a quit claim deed. THe quit claim deed MUST be notarized AND with a description of the property (these are on record in the recorders office). Once you have the quit claim deed, you must RECORD that with the county (since I lived close, I also took care of this). This recording is important because it also changes the tax responsibility. After the recording, THEN you can contact the t/s about the change.

As mentioned, a quit claim deed DOES not let you know if they still owe money on it or anything else like maybe there is an additional assessment with dues...etc.

As is always said on TUG...do you research and act accordingly. I saved over $400 doing the paperwork myself for a beach t/s in Laguna.

snelson

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posted 01-04-2002 08:16     Click Here to See the Profile for snelson   Click Here to Email snelson     
I am not an attorney, so take what I say with an appropriate caution. I am merely passing along bits that I have gleaned from various sources.

That being said, I want to reiterate that a quit claim merely transfers or relinquishes a whatever interest in or claim to title the issuers purports to have.

In the case of a title dispute, the interest transferred may not exist at all. I may be alleging that I have an interest in the property (perhaps as a former spouse, and the property was sold without my concurrence). I can transfer that interest to you via a quit claim. If my claim is found invalid, you have nothing.

As another hypothetical, party A might have title to the property. Party B is a former spouse, with a community property claim on the property. You get a quit claim from Party A that transfers their ownership to you. You might find out that you do not have exclusive ownership of the property, but rather you are a tenant-in-common with the former spouse, each having a 50% interest in the property. Or if the former spouse has died you might find yourself involved with probate or heirs.

Can get pretty messy, huh? With a quit claim, I understand that your recourse options may be limited, because the seller(s) may have merely transferred whatever their interest is, without any representation that they are the sole holder(s) of title. With a grant deed or warrant deed, the seller is more likely representing that they are transferring title to the property, free and clear. Then if you are a TPWOK (see my posted link above for a description of a TPWOK), you have title, because the seller has represented that they have full title and you have no reasonable basis to believe otherwise.

If others more knowledgeable in real estate would care to set me straight on this please do so, as I am always eager to better my knowledge in these matters.

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rhonkus

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posted 01-04-2002 09:27     Click Here to See the Profile for rhonkus   Click Here to Email rhonkus     
I purchased a timeshare through the Freids this way (they sell a lot on ebay) and had no problems. I have since sold that timeshare and when I did I used Prodox. It cost me ~$80 and they prepared a warranty deed. They also handled the escrow and recording for an additional $61. If you are not confortable with the quitclaim deed, it my be worth it to offer to pay the fees and use Prodox. Their web page is www.prodox.com

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ragtop

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posted 01-04-2002 09:59     Click Here to See the Profile for ragtop     
I wouldn't take a quitclaim deed for a deeded timeshare interest. A warranty deed assures you of a remedy if there are any defects in the title that you have not explicitly accepted in your review of the preliminary title insurance commitment. Unless the purchase price you are paying is so low you wouldn't mind losing it all, I would require a warranty deed, title insurance and closing through a licensed escrow service. As other posters have pointed out, these services are available in the resale market for costs that are not prohibitive.


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