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Cappy

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posted 06-19-2002 05:35     Click Here to See the Profile for Cappy   Click Here to Email Cappy     
They say I have to pay 5% tax if I sell my Hawaii TS if I don't live in Hawaii!! Has anyone ever hear of this & what is it? I have to send it back right away so any help asap would be great!


tiger

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posted 06-19-2002 06:46     Click Here to See the Profile for tiger     
If I remember correctly this is like a sales tax on Profit. If you, as most people, are taking a loss on the sale there is a form you can sign, stating that you are selling at a loss, that gets you out of the tax.


Makai Guy
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posted 06-19-2002 12:27     Click Here to See the Profile for Makai Guy   Click Here to Email Makai Guy     
I've never heard of this, so I did some web searching.

FIRPTA = (Federal) Foreign Investment in Real Property Tax Act
HARPTA = Hawaii Real Property Tax Act

US residents don't need to worry about FIRPTA, as far as I know.

If I understand this correctly, HARPTA provides for the buyer to withhold 5% from the Non-Hawaiian seller's proceeds and provide it to the state. So it's not REALLY a tax, exactly, but rather is witholding against taxes due on the profit from the sale. To get it back, you'd have to file with the state of Hawaii, just as you would with your own state to get back any witholding not used up by taxes due.

You can be exempted from this withholding if you can provide sufficient proof to the buyer that no taxes will be due the state from this sale.

One way to provide this proof is to file Hawaii form N-288 B with the state prior to the sale and receive a statement back from the state that no taxes will be owed on the sale. This statement should be sufficient proof to the buyer that he doesn't have to mess with this either, for which he should be grateful. Reportedly it takes 2-5 weeks to process the form, so it may be too late for you to take advantage of it, but it might not be a bad thing for any of us who are contemplating selling a HI timeshare in the future to grab a copy of NOW.

Here's the link with the best explanation I found. There's a link there to a downloadable copy of form N-288B in pdf format.

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Cappy

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posted 06-19-2002 19:47     Click Here to See the Profile for Cappy   Click Here to Email Cappy     
Thanks for all the help!! I'm checking with the closing CO to see if I can be exempt! I couldn't have done it with out you!!


Hawaii123

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posted 06-20-2002 11:56     Click Here to See the Profile for Hawaii123     
FYI, if you sell or buy your timeshare using a Hawaii escrow and title company, escrow normally handles the HARPTA & FIRPTA filings (or waiver forms) as part of their services.


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