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brickfrenzy

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posted 05-12-2005 06:19     Click Here to See the Profile for brickfrenzy     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote Post A Reply
Is it really that difficult to swap into a DVC resort? I just recently (last October) bought my first timeshare (Timeshare Virgin...oooooh) and I was hoping to trade into a 2 bedroom Disney resort next March for a family vacation. If it's going to be very difficult, I have to be prepared to go to an offsite location if necessary, but the preference is to stay onsite.

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sfwilshire

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posted 05-12-2005 07:51     Click Here to See the Profile for sfwilshire   Click Here to Email sfwilshire     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote Post A Reply
2br Disney units are fairly hard to come by even in the off-season. March will be even tougher.

I'd make other plans if I were you.

JMHO.

Sheila

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SOS8260456

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posted 05-12-2005 11:31     Click Here to See the Profile for SOS8260456   Click Here to Email SOS8260456     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote Post A Reply
I am glad you put in your request. You never know what can happen. We like to stay onsite. We usually drive to Orlando from PA so we always had a car. This year we got airfare for $49 each way and with Magical Express getting us to the resort, we were debating about getting the rental car for the whole trip (we do need one for our second week because we are heading to Pompano Beach). I honestly can't see us being "grounded" on Disney property though. I like doing my own food shopping and there always seems to be something I forgot and I don't discover it until later. Getting to other resorts is so much easier.

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Dean

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posted 05-12-2005 18:24     Click Here to See the Profile for Dean   Click Here to Email Dean     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote Post A Reply
quote:
Originally posted by brickfrenzy:
Is it really that difficult to swap into a DVC resort? I just recently (last October) bought my first timeshare (Timeshare Virgin...oooooh) and I was hoping to trade into a 2 bedroom Disney resort next March for a family vacation. If it's going to be very difficult, I have to be prepared to go to an offsite location if necessary, but the preference is to stay onsite.


Tough in general, esp for a 2 BR. They DO NOT deposit the two weeks around Easter (or the week of Xmas) but for 2006 you might be OK as Easter is later In April. If you can go the very first week of March, your chances will be better.

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vicdreyer

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posted 05-13-2005 14:40     Click Here to See the Profile for vicdreyer   Click Here to Email vicdreyer     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote Post A Reply
quote:
Originally posted by MikeJacobs:

so, the big question is: is staying in the park worth the extra $1600.....

extra $1600 ?!! The 2 of us went on a week long Caribbean cruise for $1600 !

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jwa287

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posted 05-13-2005 15:43     Click Here to See the Profile for jwa287   Click Here to Email jwa287     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote Post A Reply
You are correct. The home we stayed at was ten minutes from the Disney access road. From that point to the parking lot was 5-8 more minutes, total 15-18 minutes. Of course, if Hwy 192 is messed up with construction, add 10 minutes more.

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Raidermatt

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posted 05-17-2005 11:40     Click Here to See the Profile for Raidermatt   Click Here to Email Raidermatt     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote Post A Reply
A few things...

On whether you need a car if staying on site, there is no definite answer to this. It depends on your preferences and the things you anticipate doing.

We've been to WDW 3 times in the last 5 years and have never had a car while there. For trips between a resort and park, or a resort and Downtown Disney, the Disney transportation is fine. Yes, some will tell you they can get there faster in their car, but again, that comes down to whether you want to deal with driving/parking on your vacation.

Where Disney transporation can become "challenging" is when you want to go from one resort to another. There ususally is not direct service (unless you are on the Monorail loop, but no DVCs are on the loop), so you have to take a bus to Downtown Disney or a park, then get on another bus to go to the resort you want to visit.

Some resorts are close enough to walk to and from, like the Epcot resorts, including the Beach Club Villas and Boardwalk Villas. Those two also have the benefit of being walking distance to Epcot and MGM. Depending on exactly where you are and how fast you walk, MGM can be a 20-30 minute walk, but there is also boat service to both Epcot and MGM.

Some do swear by their cars, but we've found that the occasional inefficiency is outweighed by the convenience and cost savings.

One thing we do not like, however, are long lines for busses and SRO busses/monorails. So, we tend to either leave the parks prior to closing, or hang out after closing until the bulk of the crowds have dispersed. The parks don't kick you out, so its nice to sit down with an ice cream cone and people watch, or browse the shops, whatever, until things quiet down and then you can have a stress-free return trip.

Another thing to consider when you are determining what size unit you will need is how much time you plan to actually spend in the unit. Many people go to WDW and find they spend less time in their room than they would at other places. You've got the 4 theme parks, 2 water parks, 5 18-hole golf courses, 2 miniature golf courses, Downtown Disney, The Boardwalk, your resort's pool, day spas, and other activities available as well. So you may find that a one bedroom, or even a studio, is plenty. Of course, again, this depends on your family's habits.

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ciscogizmo1

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posted 05-22-2005 18:46     Click Here to See the Profile for ciscogizmo1     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote Post A Reply
We just got back today from Beach Club Villas. This is coming from a girl who is use to staying at the Polynesian and using the monorail. The transportation from Beach Club Villas to Magic Kingdom took about 20 minutes. The time has been cut down drastically because now the bus only stops at 2 resorts for MK: Beach Club and Yacht. While a separate bus was used for Broadwalk and the Swan & Dolphin Resort. Where in the past they stopped at 4 resorts and the bus would be full by time it got to Broadwalk so there were a lot of unhappy people. The bus came about every 15 to 20 minutes for the MK. We seemed to time it right and never waited more than 5 minutes. It wasn't bad. Going to Downtown Disney took longer because they did several stops including typhoon Lagoon. We visited a couple of resorts when we were near them but we had too much time in the park to spend visiting resorts.

We also saved a ton of money with airport to hotel/timeshare transfer provided by Disney. This is definitely worth it since it is currently free. Disney was suppose to mail us our luggage tags before we left but that never happened so, I was bit nervous on how it would work. Anyways, we got off the plane in Orlando at 8:30 am. Walked up to the counter, gave Disney our luggage tag numbers and a description of our luggage. Then, we got on the bus. The longest wait was waiting for the bus to fill up. The bus got to our resort by 10 am. The whole process took 1 1/2 hours. OUr luggage showed up around noon. We brought day bags with our swim suits. It was a great savings.

Personally, as much time as the parks take I felt it was very difficult to cook a dinner at the villas. I personally like to eat healthy and that usually takes longer than making hamburger helper, mac & cheese, or burgers. So, I really didn't find the kitchen useful. We used the kitchen for breakfast and freezing our waters. It was nice to be able to take park breaks in the afternoon to use the pool. Also, we used the early entry days. We found being the first at the parks gave you more time to go the rides. While the ride waits weren't long the park was crowded. It took a long time to travel from ride to ride from 11 am and on.

If you have anymore questions let me know!!

GL with your decision...

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SK

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posted 05-23-2005 14:21     Click Here to See the Profile for SK     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote Post A Reply
We've stayed both on and off-site. In a nutshell, if my DH had his way (not a WDW fan), we'd only stay offsite; if my DD and I had our way, we'd only stay onsite. I found being offsite to be cumbersome.

There are many advantages to onsite, the major reasons are:
1-early entry and extended evening hours,
2-the option of splitting up when needed: If your kids are like mine, one will tire alot sooner than the other and the option of one parent and one child being able to head back for a nap while the other 2 continue on in the park is priceless. I can't tell you how many days we lost when we stayed off site because we either ALL left to accomodate the sick or cranky one, or we dragged the tired one along and dealt with bad temperaments. Granted, the transportation is not always the fastest, but at least its a way home for the 2 who want to play on while the others rest!

One other tip, as has been said, you WILL get worn out with kids that age. It is a good plan to PLAN on taking an off day every third day. On this off day sleep-in late, have a lazy day utilizing the resort pool, shuttle around to the resorts to pin trade, have a late character breakfast or early character dinner or whatever. This will energize you for the next 2 days. Keep this in mind when you buy your tickets and save a little $$ here (only buy a 4 or 5 day pass for a 7 day stay -- perhaps add the water park option for the off days). There is so much to do in Disney at the resorts you will not need to pay for park admission to find something fun to do. Character meals is just one suggestion of many non-park options.

If you have specific questions I'd be glad to answer.



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BocaBum99

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posted 05-23-2005 18:22     Click Here to See the Profile for BocaBum99   Click Here to Email BocaBum99     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote Post A Reply
quote:
Originally posted by SK:
We've stayed both on and off-site. In a nutshell, if my DH had his way (not a WDW fan), we'd only stay offsite; if my DD and I had our way, we'd only stay onsite. I found being offsite to be cumbersome.

There are many advantages to onsite, the major reasons are:
1-early entry and extended evening hours,
2-the option of splitting up when needed: If your kids are like mine, one will tire alot sooner than the other and the option of one parent and one child being able to head back for a nap while the other 2 continue on in the park is priceless. I can't tell you how many days we lost when we stayed off site because we either ALL left to accomodate the sick or cranky one, or we dragged the tired one along and dealt with bad temperaments. Granted, the transportation is not always the fastest, but at least its a way home for the 2 who want to play on while the others rest!

One other tip, as has been said, you WILL get worn out with kids that age. It is a good plan to PLAN on taking an off day every third day. On this off day sleep-in late, have a lazy day utilizing the resort pool, shuttle around to the resorts to pin trade, have a late character breakfast or early character dinner or whatever. This will energize you for the next 2 days. Keep this in mind when you buy your tickets and save a little $$ here (only buy a 4 or 5 day pass for a 7 day stay -- perhaps add the water park option for the off days). There is so much to do in Disney at the resorts you will not need to pay for park admission to find something fun to do. Character meals is just one suggestion of many non-park options.

If you have specific questions I'd be glad to answer.



Yep, those are good benefits that would be worth it at about 1/2-1/3 of their current prices. Then, it would only be 2-4 times higher than staying off property.

For the premium you pay for Disney, you can afford to hire your own personal concierge and a private limo to shuttle you from location to location and have money to spare.

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Raidermatt

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posted 05-24-2005 13:04     Click Here to See the Profile for Raidermatt   Click Here to Email Raidermatt     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote Post A Reply
Depending on season, rooms at the All-Stars and Pop Century can be well under $100 per night. Even at $120-$130, its not quite as expensive as portrayed. But yes, you do pay a premium for staying on site. As with anything, we all place different values on things and experiences.

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elaine

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posted 05-25-2005 06:16     Click Here to See the Profile for elaine   Click Here to Email elaine     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote Post A Reply
other options for splitting up parties---stay in a place that offers shuttle for a fee, like vistana, etc. HGVC had a FREE shuttle to universal.
Also, if you think it would be a BIG issue---you can rent a second car, drive in and just pay the $8 extra---a small car is only going to be $100 or so for the entire week----I have gone with kids ranging from 18 mths to 8 yrs old.
The BEST thing we do is to take or rent a stroller---even for a 5 yr old, not having to walk from one end to the other realy helps with tireness. Sometimes, we take a boat, monorail, etc. to one of the hotels and have a long lunch. We always stay off-site, would love to be onsite, but for the $ difference, I can buy my whole family disney tickets. But we also go to disney at least 1X and sometimes 2X a yr, so we only go into parks 2-4X that week and use pools, etc the other days.

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TomCayman

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posted 05-25-2005 11:46     Click Here to See the Profile for TomCayman   Click Here to Email TomCayman     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote Post A Reply
Question : If you are staying on property and rent a car, then take it to a park (eg BCV to MK), do you have to pay to park it at the park even though you are staying on property ? To be honest, I have no idea, never rented a car in Orlando.

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SK

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posted 05-25-2005 12:32     Click Here to See the Profile for SK     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote Post A Reply
People staying on property get free parking at all the parks. Just be sure to get a pass for your car when you check in.

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SK

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posted 05-25-2005 12:57     Click Here to See the Profile for SK     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote Post A Reply
quote:
Originally posted by BocaBum99:
Yep, those are good benefits that would be worth it at about 1/2-1/3 of their current prices. Then, it would only be 2-4 times higher than staying off property.

For the premium you pay for Disney, you can afford to hire your own personal concierge and a private limo to shuttle you from location to location and have money to spare.


There is no dipute as to whether on property is more expensive, or even whether there are other minusses to staying onsite, but for those who would like the onsite convenience and ambiance, don't let this comment scare you away from trying to find a reasonable rate on site.

There are often special discounts that make staying ON property only moderately more expensive than off property.

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Carl D

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posted 05-25-2005 19:15     Click Here to See the Profile for Carl D     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote Post A Reply
quote:
Originally posted by BocaBum99:
Yep, those are good benefits that would be worth it at about 1/2-1/3 of their current prices. Then, it would only be 2-4 times higher than staying off property.

For the premium you pay for Disney, you can afford to hire your own personal concierge and a private limo to shuttle you from location to location and have money to spare.


Boca is looking at this from a strictly monetary point of view. Some of us believe it's worth every penny, and more to be able to stay inside Walt Disney World.-- Let alone the theming, which no other resort can match.

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MikeJacobs

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posted 05-27-2005 05:46     Click Here to See the Profile for MikeJacobs   Click Here to Email MikeJacobs     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote Post A Reply
wow, this has turned into quite the message thread... thanks for all the feedback.

for those who didn't see it earlier, our current plan is that I have a request for a 1 bedroom (or better) unit at the 5 DVC resorts that II has access to. I'm giving it until around this time next year to find something. if I get it, great! if not, then I'll get an outside-the-park resort.

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