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calihockey33

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posted 03-23-2005 11:05     Click Here to See the Profile for calihockey33   Click Here to Email calihockey33     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote Post A Reply
Has anyone seen this article?
What is the current tax rate?
I can't see spending $50K for a Marriott Maui and paying $800 in property tax per year.

[quote]MAUI: Mayor Alan Arakawa says Maui County's property tax revenue for the fiscal year 2006 budget is projected at $156.6 million, a 19 percent increase from this year’s estimated take of $131.4 million.

Much of that increase is generated by an estimated 23 percent growth in total property values for the county, from $22.7 billion this year to a projected $28 billion in fiscal 2006.

But some extra revenue will also come from the county’s new timeshare property tax category. Arakawa’s proposal would set the timeshare tax rate at $16 per $1,000 of property value, making it the county’s highest tax rate.[quote]

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ZCar

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posted 03-23-2005 11:28     Click Here to See the Profile for ZCar   Click Here to Email ZCar     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote Post A Reply
2005 Maui maintenance fees include 'Property Tax at $19.33 for each of our EOY's making it $38.66 per year.

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Dave M
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posted 03-23-2005 11:51     Click Here to See the Profile for Dave M   Click Here to Email Dave M     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote Post A Reply
That's Dave's point.

The proposed new tax on timeshares would apparently mean a huge increase in the tax from what you are now paying, not just a 19% increase, which is the overall proposed increase.

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ZCar

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posted 03-23-2005 16:06     Click Here to See the Profile for ZCar   Click Here to Email ZCar     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote Post A Reply
Arrrggghhh!
Maui needs a California Prop 13 on Timeshares.
I assume ARDA will fight it ,,,

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kauai kid

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posted 03-23-2005 16:48     Click Here to See the Profile for kauai kid     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote Post A Reply
How about moving this discussion to the Hawaii timeshare bulletin board? It will affect all of us who own on Maui not just the Marriott owners.

Unfortunately, it is always easy to increase taxes on those who can't vote. A tax increase, if approved, should be the same percentage for all real property.

Mahalo, Sterling
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kauai kid

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posted 03-24-2005 12:13     Click Here to See the Profile for kauai kid     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote Post A Reply
If my property tax on the Maui timeshare is presently $100/year what will it be if the Mayor has his way?

Sterling

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calihockey33

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posted 03-24-2005 14:18     Click Here to See the Profile for calihockey33   Click Here to Email calihockey33     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote Post A Reply
quote:
Originally posted by kauai kid:
If my property tax on the Maui timeshare is presently $100/year what will it be if the Mayor has his way?

Sterling



It depends on the value of your timeshare.. In California, they base the value on what you paid for it. I'm not sure how Hawaii determines value.

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motherboyd

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posted 03-24-2005 16:21     Click Here to See the Profile for motherboyd   Click Here to Email motherboyd     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote Post A Reply
Just because you can't vote on it doesn't mean you can't be heard. Why don't all the Maui timeshare owners on TUG start a petition stating their opposition to this. You could send it to the mayor and copy all the local news stations. I am considering a timeshare purchase in Maui, but this would seriously impact my decision to purchase. I would think the timeshare industry would go nuts over this. Do you know how much harder it is going to be to sell these with that type of property tax attached. This is outrageous, in my opinion.

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dlupton

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posted 03-24-2005 20:32     Click Here to See the Profile for dlupton   Click Here to Email dlupton     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote Post A Reply
The current property tax is $8.30 per thousand and the Maui Mayor's budget proposes an increase to $16.00 per thousand. ARDA is attempting to fight these increases, however if timeshare owners themselve do not enter the fray, the politicians will prevail. If one county is successful with this issue, why wouldn't every other taxing entity follow suit. They will. Timeshare owners are real property owners who don't vote in the locale of the property. They are considered an easy tax target. Every owner of a timeshare in Maui County should be faxing or emailing all Maui County politicians expressing their discontent with this type of taxation.

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kauai kid

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posted 03-25-2005 06:42     Click Here to See the Profile for kauai kid     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote Post A Reply
I agree we shouldn't be silent:

Who are the Maui politicians we should contact and what are their addresses, phone numbers, fax numbers, emails, etc.

Thanks,

Sterling

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kauai kid

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posted 03-25-2005 06:44     Click Here to See the Profile for kauai kid     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote Post A Reply
calihockey33: Where did you see the article? I can't find it Googling.

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calihockey33

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posted 03-25-2005 07:48     Click Here to See the Profile for calihockey33   Click Here to Email calihockey33     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote Post A Reply
I could swear I saw it on timeshare beat.. but I now can't find it

Here is an article that mentions it
http://www.co.maui.hi.us/press/?recno=6855

The Mayor’s proposed budget will also cut the homeowner real property tax rate by 15.5 percent and the improved residential tax rate by 10.4 percent per thousand assessed value. It also proposes a new tax credit for property owners who offer affordable rentals; proposes property tax relief for active members of the armed service; and also creates a new Time Share property tax category with a rate of $16 per $1,000 assessed value.

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motherboyd

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posted 03-25-2005 10:23     Click Here to See the Profile for motherboyd   Click Here to Email motherboyd     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote Post A Reply
quote:
Originally posted by kauai kid:
I agree we shouldn't be silent:

Who are the Maui politicians we should contact and what are their addresses, phone numbers, fax numbers, emails, etc.

Thanks,

Sterling


Here is the link to the mayor's office: http://www.co.maui.hi.us/mayor/

Here are the senators: http://www.senate.gov/general/contact_information/senators_cfm.cfm?State=HI

Here are the house representatives: http://www.house.gov/house/MemStateSearch.shtml#HI

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