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posted 05-04-2005 20:35               

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I got a recorded phone call this evening compelling me to go to www.myuvc.com and vote in favour of the proposed changes to the UVC Bylaws. Amoung other changes I noticed that the board wants to delete the section which limited the number of new memberships sold to the number of units built at all resorts within the UVC family X 51 weeks. In my mind deleting this section would mean the developer could sell an unlimited number of floating memberships, creating a situation where demand could outstrip supply making it difficult for members to book the most demanded weeks.
Steve

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posted 05-05-2005 02:25               

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Yes you are right. That is a dangerous change. I am concerned that Mexican properties with float weeks do exactly that - sell more weeks than they have available - or if in the build phase, before they are built. I remember the first year we stayed at the PB Sunset Beach the talk by owners at the pool was that they had to come in September because they called in January and that was all that was available. The resort was selling faster than building. In Canada it is illegal to do what UVC is proposing. We own a float week but the deed says week 23. I would vote against this proposal and hope that the developer has not held back so many weeks for hotel that he can force it through. Let us know what happpens with this.

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posted 05-05-2005 15:23               

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STEVE: YES, I think you are correct and I am very concerned, why, because we own 3 weeks 1 bdrm. GOLD MEMBERSHIP at the VDP FLAMINGOS RESORT and I booked my weeks in early April for next February and they are completly full, so they say, fully booked for one of the weeks i.e. FEB.11-18 and cannot give us our 1 bdrm. but will give us for that week a downgrade to a LOCKOFF UNIT and yet we are paying maintenance on a 1 bdrm. Now, we are just amazed and think they are holding back a lot of those 1 BDRM. weeks for rental, i.e. travel agents etc. In other words it will be used as a Hotel, similar to what Paradise Village is now doing. Because I can't see them being full and no 1 bdrms. for GOLD MEMBERS at this time can you! How early do we have to book to get our 4 consecutive weeks!! I received that phone call as well.

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From: Tonawanda, NY USA; own Villa del Mar, Pto. Vallarta; VCI & Royal Caribbean; Pelican, St Maarten; Swallowtail, Hilton Head; Oberstaufen, Germany.
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posted 05-05-2005 18:30               

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I am concerned about this...I have 1 March week which I have always used in II or RCI but now I plan to use it. I have purchased 3 winter weeks via Ebay which I hope to tag onto this week so I can have 4 consecutive weeks. They are all fixed weeks. How will I be affected? BTW, I own at Villa del Mar.

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From: Oak Park, IL Owner: Swallowtail, Hilton Head, SC; Villa del Mar, Puerto Vallarta and FoxRun, NC
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posted 05-05-2005 20:03               

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Hmmm... I didn't realize this was part of the change! I just thought it involved changing the directors. I admit to not reading it all carefully.

We are Villa Del Mar fixed week owners so I suppose this wouldn't directly effect me yet I don't think it would be good for the resort as a whole.

KarenK, did you notice that current VDM owners can buy another VDM unit for only $100? Info on page 5 of the newsletter.

Deb

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posted 05-06-2005 04:56               

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Deb, I did see that, only after I bought 3 fixed weeks through Holiday Group. ARGH. I will call UVC just to find out which weeks are available.

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posted 05-06-2005 06:37               

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OK I'm confused. After reading this thread I went to uvc's site and found this:
"Section 1.2018 Membership

Means a Member’s status as a Member of the Club. The Club shall issue and sell no more than the product of fifty-one (51) Memberships times the total number of Units in all Projects. Each Membership shall be evidenced by a Membership Certificate. There are six (6) types of Memberships: (1) Developer Memberships, (2) Premier Memberships, (3) Gold Memberships, (4) Villa del Mar Memberships, (5) Villa del Palmar Vallarta Memberships, and (6) Villa del Palmar Cabo Memberships."
and this

"Section 3.02 Classes of Voting Members
The Club shall have four two classes of voting Members as follows: (1) Developer Class, and (2) Member Class. Developer Class means the Developer Members all as one group. Member Class means the holders of Memberships in the Projects as well as Premier Memberships, and Gold Memberships all as one group. There shall be no more voting Memberships than the product of fifty-one (51) 51 times the total number of Units in all Projects."

Where does it state otherwise?

edited to remove items crossed out to eliminate confusion.

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posted 05-06-2005 07:45               

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I just went to the site (I couldn't get it for awhile) and read through the bylaw amendments. I also did not see any change in the number of weeks sold. It looks like all the changes have to do with board members, class of membership, etc.

Karen, let me know what you find out about the $100 weeks. Not that I'm interested...

Deb

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posted 05-06-2005 08:53               

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Woops! I just reread the Bylaws and see that in the membership section under 1.18 they cancelled and then reinserted the deleted paragraph at the top of this section. So the number of weeks sold is still limited. Sorry for the misinformation.
Steve

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posted 05-06-2005 13:13               

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Steve, you just kept us all on our toes. I admit to not reading the changes very carefully so I have now done my due diligence and reviewed it all.

Deb

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posted 05-08-2005 16:30               

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Okay. Doesn't sound as bad as originally mentioned. Question is??? Do we vote in favor or not?

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posted 05-08-2005 16:35               

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OK, now I am confused (again)... I own a fixed week. And I am buying a few additional weeks that are also fixed.
Will this amendment apply only to newer purchases that were floating weeks?? I remember they had a vote once or twice trying to convert all weeks to floating time, but that was a while back. And it did not pass then (conversion to all floating weks.)

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posted 06-01-2005 19:06            

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I don't own in UVC but notice on their web site that they have premier and gold memberships, and I saw it mentioned above. what are the requiremennts for each?

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posted 06-03-2005 12:22               

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Badman:
This link will bring you to a chart which indicates the basic differences between the different memberships: http://www.myuvc.com/member_services_04.html
Gold is the newest and most expensive membership option which I believe gives you full access to their newest resort Flamingos. Premier was sold when there were only three sites - 2 in PV and 1 in Cabo.

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posted 06-03-2005 16:10            

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Is the gold membership transferrable to resale purchasers?

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