posted 05-31-2005 22:17               

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Originally posted by doggiesdad:
What authority could thier staff have to circumvent these laws of access?

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posted 06-01-2005 21:50               

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Originally posted by Karen G:
[QUOTE]Originally posted by doggiesdad:
[b] What authority could thier staff have to circumvent these laws of access?

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Karen
I'm refering to the statement in the post that the people were evicted from the resort. I find that pretty hard to believe. It is and always has been swim at your own risk on any Mexican beach and resorts have no liability. I understand that the ocean in that location is notorious for being unsafe. I also believe that the resort would warn people of potential dangers. However, I don't believe they evicted anyone for swimming once warned of the dangers. Because I value accurate information found here on TUG I can't help but question this particular statement. It is second hand heresay and it gives the impression that the PBSB Resort might evict a guest for a perfectly legal activity. I for one don't buy it. JMO.

Mike

posted 06-02-2005 03:07               

The beaches in Cabo are dangerous. In the Gringo Gazette a couple of weeks ago there was an article about a wowan drowning on Medano Beach recently when she was walking with family and a rouge wave came up and pulled them all into the water. This woman was not strong enough to swim out as her family did and they had to wait for her body to wash up. So sad, and on a beach we consider "safe". The beach a Sunset beach is very unsafe. I spoke with a boat captain who pulled an 18 year old out of the water after she drown walking on the Pacific side near Sol Mar and Playa
Grande. The trip was her graduation present from her grandmother.

posted 06-02-2005 07:37               

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It is second hand heresay and it gives the impression that the PBSB Resort might evict a guest for a perfectly legal activity. I for one don't buy it. JMO. Mike

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It does bring up a point, though. Often you see signs in establishments that say "We reserve the right to refuse service to anyone." I wonder if that concept applies in a situation like this where a guest was violating resort rules, assuming of course that everything happened just as it was stated.

posted 06-03-2005 18:31               

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Originally posted by walden104:
Yes, I agree that this is second-hand, "hear-say" information, but the security guard was so serious about this information that I have a tendency to believe that these people were in fact evicted. Maybe there were other circumstances that he didn't relay to me. I just wanted to make everyone aware of the seriousness of going in the water and PB Sunset's policies.

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Ken,
I suspect you may be correct that "other" circunstances were involved. When I first read your post that was my immediate thought. I suspect thier is more to that story than you were told. JMO

Mike

posted 06-04-2005 11:29               

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Originally posted by doggiesdad:

Karen
I'm refering to the statement in the post that the people were evicted from the resort. I find that pretty hard to believe. It is and always has been swim at your own risk on any Mexican beach and resorts have no liability. I understand that the ocean in that location is notorious for being unsafe. I also believe that the resort would warn people of potential dangers. However, I don't believe they evicted anyone for swimming once warned of the dangers. Because I value accurate information found here on TUG I can't help but question this particular statement. It is second hand heresay and it gives the impression that the PBSB Resort might evict a guest for a perfectly legal activity. I for one don't buy it. JMO.

Mike

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You may not buy it but it certainly can happen. Mexico is NOT the United States so you can forget about your legal rights when you cross the border. We frequently visit Mexico on business and to visit family. I lived in Mexico, my wife is Mexican, I own a business in Mexico, I am fluent in Spanish, etc. so I know of what I speak.

The resort may not stop you from wading in the water but they certainly can evict you if they choose to do so. I am not saying this story is true as I didn't witness it. However, I have seen this sort of thing happen many times in Mexico, often for less cause than wading in the ocean. The real issue here was probably not the wading as much as they went back and did it after being told not to. They defied the security guard which is not a good idea in Mexico nor anywhere else for that matter. An individual, nor business for that matter, cannot seek legal recourse through the courts like one can in the US. Far too many Americans don't realize that their individual rights stop at the US border when traveling to other countries. That is not to say that other countries don't protect individual rights. Many do, but Mexico is not one of them.

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John

posted 06-05-2005 09:50               

I don't believe they evicted anyone for swimming. JMO

posted 06-05-2005 10:51               

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John,
I never said that the resort could not evict anyone. I understand they can do anything they want to do in Mexico. I just don't buy the story. Every resort I have stayed at in Mexico has had warnings for its patrons about surf conditions and dangerous undertows. They warn each guest and that is that. They don't have any liability where this issue is concerned and therefore they have no vested interest in evicting a guest who choses to take a personal risk off property (all beaches in Mexico are off property). In short it would be bad business to evict such a guest as they would not be around to spend thier money. I hear more misinformation about Mexico on this web site (mostly based on hearsay) and truthfully it bothers me. It bothers me as much as the "finger in the chili" has bothered the Wendy's people. These misinformation post seem to snowball until there is the appearance of a problem with a given resort that may influence peoples decisions concerning them. If you don't know that something is true then a post about it as though it were true is not called for.

I don't believe they evicted anyone for swimming. JMO

Mike

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As I said earlier, I don't believe that swimming/wading was the issue. The issue was defying the security guard by them going back in the water after being told not to. Being evicted for defying the guard is very believable.