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X-ring

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posted 10-10-2004 13:56     Click Here to See the Profile for X-ring   Click Here to Email X-ring     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote Post A Reply
The loonie has been going gangbusters against virtually all currencies since June including the US dollar, the pound, the peso, the euro, the Swiss franc and the rand.

While it touched $0.80 US this week, more appreciation is in store according to some economists; some are even calling for the loonie to trade at par with the US dollar by the end of 2005. I don't believe that this is a temporary phenomenon - the world increasingly needs our natural resources.

This is great news for Canadians who travel and for paying maintenance fees due in these currencies.

But is there a downside? For instance, will Americans now be less willing to buy Canadian timeshares, tend to sell the ones they have or even trade less into Canada, eventually reducing the trading power of Canadian resorts?


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martinus_scriblerus

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posted 10-11-2004 08:45     Click Here to See the Profile for martinus_scriblerus   Click Here to Email martinus_scriblerus     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote Post A Reply
If you can trade effectively into another country don't you just assume you'll be paying what the market is there and not worry too much about it. I mean consider how hard it is to trade into Paris, yet I doubt there are many cities that are much more expensive than there.

And yes, it's a pleasure that our dollar is finally moving. After the Cretien goverment's policy of currency debasement, it is good to watch the USA following the same tack and maybe we'll benefit for a while instead of having to pay like usual.

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CarlK

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posted 10-12-2004 07:03     Click Here to See the Profile for CarlK   Click Here to Email CarlK     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote Post A Reply
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Originally posted by X-ring:
This is great news for Canadians who travel and for paying maintenance fees due in these currencies.

It is indeed!

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But is there a downside? For instance, will Americans now be less willing to buy Canadian timeshares, tend to sell the ones they have or even trade less into Canada, eventually reducing the trading power of Canadian resorts?

I don't think so. I think Canadian resorts can compete with resorts elsewhere--unless their marketing strategy has been primarily based on the $ advantage of the exchange rate.

Carl


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pwrshift

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posted 10-12-2004 07:15     Click Here to See the Profile for pwrshift   Click Here to Email pwrshift     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote Post A Reply
Buy now! After the US election you may see the dollar value reverse. We live in a false economy right now, only while the US is in pain - that will change and we'll be back in the doldrums. Long term Canada can't compete due to our taxation and govt. restrictions to business development. A high dollar value means exports are going to suffer big time, and the govt. knows that can't continue. JMHO

Brian

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Harmina

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posted 10-12-2004 18:03     Click Here to See the Profile for Harmina   Click Here to Email Harmina     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote Post A Reply
The new RCI exchange fee has gone back up to $196. Is this a reflection of a stronger $??

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Heron

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posted 10-13-2004 05:13     Click Here to See the Profile for Heron   Click Here to Email Heron     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote Post A Reply
Unfortunately those same economists were predicting it was going to go to $0.70 about two months ago.

Personally, I'm buying US$'s right now and yes, it's making US denominated TS more attractive.

I'm concerned with the impact the dollar is going to have on our exports and as a result the impact on our economy. The last time there was a run up they took a beating and we lost a number of Canadian companies that are dependent on the US.

I think it's going to get bumpy again... time will tell.

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Originally posted by X-ring:

While it touched $0.80 US this week, more appreciation is in store according to some economists; some are even calling for the loonie to trade at par with the US dollar by the end of 2005. I don't believe that this is a temporary phenomenon - the world increasingly needs our natural resources.

But is there a downside? For instance, will Americans now be less willing to buy Canadian timeshares, tend to sell the ones they have or even trade less into Canada, eventually reducing the trading power of Canadian resorts?



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Keitht

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posted 10-13-2004 07:21     Click Here to See the Profile for Keitht   Click Here to Email Keitht     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote Post A Reply
From the UK, Canada has gone from being extremely good value for money to good value for money. The $C - £ exchange rate would have to drop a good deal further to stop me going back.

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X-ring

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posted 10-13-2004 14:30     Click Here to See the Profile for X-ring   Click Here to Email X-ring     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote Post A Reply
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Originally posted by Heron:
Unfortunately those same economists were predicting it was going to go to $0.70 about two months ago.

That wouldn't include Don Coxe, the economist on whom I have the most confidence. Those who listened to him over the last few years were into energy and resource stocks long before Bay Street caught on.

BTW, he writes a column for Maclean's and is the chief economic strategist for BoM's subsidiary in the U.S. He has a weekly conference call at http://www.bmoharrisprivatebanking.com/webcast.asp

Worth a listen!

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Personally, I'm buying US$'s right now and yes, it's making US denominated TS more attractive.

Canada has its economic house in order and is running a $9B surplus while the U.S. is running at a $500B/year deficit. Coxe predicts a devaluation of the U.S. dollar and the loonie trading at par within the next two years or so.

If I were inclined to buy U.S. assets, I'd hold off as things may get considerably cheaper from a Canadian perspective.


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I'm concerned with the impact the dollar is going to have on our exports and as a result the impact on our economy.

I'm with you on that one but its impact will vary on different segments of the economy. Our secondary industries (e.g. manufacturing, tourism) will be less price-competitive in the world but our primary industries (e.g. energy, mining) will be impacted to a lesser extent and continue to do very well, so long as the Asian economies continue to expand, of course.

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posted 10-14-2004 10:53     Click Here to See the Profile for X-ring   Click Here to Email X-ring     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote Post A Reply
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Originally posted by X-ring:
some economists ... are even calling for the loonie to trade at par with the US dollar

On the front page of today's National Post.

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X-ring

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posted 10-15-2004 05:57     Click Here to See the Profile for X-ring   Click Here to Email X-ring     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote Post A Reply
quote:
Originally posted by X-ring:
But is there a downside? For instance, will Americans now be less willing to buy Canadian timeshares, tend to sell the ones they have or even trade less into Canada, eventually reducing the trading power of Canadian resorts?

From today's Financial Post.

Bev - the link is no longer restricted to subscribers.

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