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Topic: Grand Chateau-LV
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bdurstta TUG MemberPosts: 178 From: Grand Terrace, CA Registered: Dec 2000
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posted 05-01-2005 08:58
Does anyone know when it will open? I called the central registration number (to see if I could use points) and they cannot book yet and do not know when they can start.The prices sure have GONE UP there quickly, but it does sound like a wonderful place! IP: Logged |
Kilby5924 TUG MemberPosts: 88 From: Philadelphia Pa, Marriott Newport coast , Star Island Registered: Apr 2004
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posted 05-01-2005 09:31
They are scheduled to open Oct. of this year. SheldonIP: Logged |
GaryDouglas TUG MemberPosts: 19 From: Pleasanton, CA USA Marriott Maui Ocean 2 BR OF Marriott Grand Chateau 3 BR Registered: Aug 2004
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posted 05-04-2005 23:18
We are scheduled to be there the first official week of operation, from September 30th to October 6th. I understand they expect to be finished in early September and gave themselves a buffer in case the contruction schedule suffers. If they finish on schedule and can take reservations in September, I wonder if they will take in anyone early.IP: Logged |
Jerry TUG MemberPosts: 182 From: Anaheim, CA U.S.A. Registered: Dec 2000
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posted 05-06-2005 14:00
I go to the Polo Towers for 2-3 days about every t 6-8 weeks right next door to the Marriott, and I have been amazed with how much progress they seem to make between each visit. I am used to construction usually taking longer than everyone expects, but in the case of this Marriott they always seem to be ahead of schedule. I would expect them to finish early based on their progress since day one which was less than one year ago.Jerry IP: Logged |
dougp26364 TUG MemberPosts: 2125 From: Wichita KS owner: Polo Towers/ The Villas at Polo Towers/ Marriot's Ocean Point/Marriott's Grand Chateau/ HGVC LVStrip/ Grand Regency Branson, MO Registered: Jan 2001
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posted 05-06-2005 19:19
In October of last year, they had barely started. By our Polo Towers visit in March they had already topped off and painted most of the exterior. Having watched the painfully sloooooowwwwww progress of completing the Villa's at Polo Towers, now going on 3 years and all the rooms STILL aren't completed, it's amazing to watch a company that knows what it's doing go to work,IP: Logged |
KevinandChristie Non MemberPosts: 1 From: Las Vegas, Nevada Registered: May 2005
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posted 05-25-2005 18:11
I just bought a 2BR/2BA lock-out timeshare at the Marriott Grand Chateau and am having qualms about the purchase. What gets me boiling is that they financed me at over 20% and assured me that I could refinance it at my local credit union at a lower rate! Hah! There was no such thing. Please let me know. Mostly I want to know, do you think this was a good investment overall? ------------------ Christie del Castillo IP: Logged |
bogey21 TUG MemberPosts: 1200 From: fort worth, texas usa Registered: Sep 2001
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posted 05-25-2005 19:00
quote: Originally posted by KevinandChristie: Mostly I want to know, do you think this was a good investment overall?
No. Not considering the price and 20% financing charge. Take this into account. My last 3 trips to Las Vegas I have traded into the HGVC at the Hilton, the Fairfield and the Grandview using weeks that cost me less than $1,000 and MFs around $400. Before those of you who love the Marriotts get all reved up. The HGVC was only a one bedroom; the others two. I also agree that the Marriott will be nicer and have a better location (nothing wrong with the quality of the others though). But for the money I'll do it my way!! IP: Logged |
camachinist TUG MemberPosts: 1600 From: Kerman, CA Registered: Feb 2004
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posted 05-25-2005 19:56
quote: Originally posted by KevinandChristie: I just bought a 2BR/2BA lock-out timeshare at the Marriott Grand Chateau and am having qualms about the purchase. What gets me boiling is that they financed me at over 20% and assured me that I could refinance it at my local credit union at a lower rate! Hah! There was no such thing. Please let me know. Mostly I want to know, do you think this was a good investment overall?
The finance APR sounds odd to me. Typically, it's around 12-13%. If your local credit union will finance the deal, go for it. Their rates, even on an unsecured personal loan, are usually much, much lower. Also, with such a loan, the asset will then be liquid. But, if applicable, the interest will no longer be deductible. Most folks who don't pay cash usually use a home equity loan, so the interest remains deductible in most instances. I'm curious, your location is listed as Las Vegas. Did you list that because of the timeshare being there, or are you residents? If the latter, what was your impetus for purchasing in your home town? Numerous TUG'ers have bought MGC from the developer (I recall one resale in process recently) and are quite satisfied. You'll have to decide for yourself. You own a high-quality timeshare and there are many options for your use. Spend some time here and explore them. Good luck! Pat
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Dave M Administrator TUG MemberPosts: 6786 From: Boston, MA Registered: Dec 2000
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posted 05-25-2005 20:37
Two comments....First, I'm one of the very satisfied GC owners here. I bought a 3-BR lockout at GC from Marriott last summer. It's not my first purchase from Marriott, even knowing that resales, when available, are always cheaper than buying from Marriott. I'm a happy camper! Second, I didn't buy it as an economic investment. I bought it as an investment in future vacations. I didn't finance it. If I had, the finance costs would have driven my total costs for the timeshare to a level that I wouldn't have been comfortable with. For more on not buying timeshares as economic investments, see this thread.
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dougp26364 TUG MemberPosts: 2125 From: Wichita KS owner: Polo Towers/ The Villas at Polo Towers/ Marriot's Ocean Point/Marriott's Grand Chateau/ HGVC LVStrip/ Grand Regency Branson, MO Registered: Jan 2001
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posted 05-25-2005 22:30
GC sales staff hasn't always been Marriott sales staff. They were Diamond Resorts International staff before the on paper merger that allowed Marriott to build on a site and a plan that had been developed by DRI. In my most recent dealings with their sales staff I have found them to retain some of the old, bad habits from selling for DRI for so long. They are NOT the most knowledgable Marriott sales staff I've met and tend to give bad advice. Of course non of it's on paper so you'll have a tough time doing anything about it.I encourage you to write Marriott and complain about the inacurrate information you were given. If Marriott know about the problems, they can't fix them. Unfortunately they were less than responsive to my complaints and have lost some of my respect. The sales staff at GC has none of my respect and if I exercise an additional purchase option, it won't be through the LV office. I don't trust what they tell me. I'll either go through the sales person I had at Ocean Pointe or through telesales. In short very few, if any, loan companies will refinance a TS with the TS being used as colateral. You can always put it on a credit card that has a lower rate of interest if you have that much of a credit limit. You can also take out a second mortgage on your home if you have equity that can be used. Otherwise, I don't know of any other way to refinance a TS. FWIW the LV office were financing the GC with interest rates between 13% and 21% when we took the tour. IP: Logged |
Dave M Administrator TUG MemberPosts: 6786 From: Boston, MA Registered: Dec 2000
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posted 05-26-2005 05:30
As Doug states, you can refinance or take out a home equity loan on your home. That's probably the best alternative, because the interest expense will likely be tax deductible.Another viable alternative - more expensive than a loan on your home, but less expensive than the interest rate you are paying - is to refinance with Tammac Financial, the only financial services company specializing in timeshare loans and refinancings. IP: Logged |
Dave M Administrator TUG MemberPosts: 6786 From: Boston, MA Registered: Dec 2000
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posted 05-26-2005 07:12
Adding....At a 20% interest rate, if you financed $20k of the purchase price, you are paying at least $5,000-$6,000 annually on your loan, plus your maintenance fees, for a total of $6,000-$7,000 or more per year! That makes for one very expensive vacation each year! Since timeshares are generally not good economic investments, this demonstrates a good reason to avoid financing a timeshare. IP: Logged |