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mpook2002

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posted 05-02-2005 20:17     Click Here to See the Profile for mpook2002     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote Post A Reply
Just returned from Aruba 4/24. Got an owners update (for 15,000 Marriott points) and some interesting information.

Current prices as of 4/15/2005

Platinum Season:Weeks 1-17 Excuding Platinum Plus

View
Oceanfront $47,900 (Sold Out)
Oceanside $33,200
Oceanview $30,100
Gardenview $24,900

Gold Season:Weeks 18-50
Oceanfront $30,600
Oceanside $21,900
Oceanview $20,900
Gardenview $19,400

Updates
Docks and fisherman's hut will be moved closer to Holiday Inn Side and open up the beach in front of the Surf Club for swimming.This work has not started yet, but will begin shortly.

Marriott is in negotiations with Holiday Inn to purchase the Holiday Inn building closest to the Surf Club to build a third timeshare resort next to the Surf Club.

Ritz Carlton timeshare will be built next to the existing Marriott Hotel. There will be about 200 units and ownership will be quarter shares beginning around $250,000.

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JimC

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posted 05-03-2005 09:10     Click Here to See the Profile for JimC   Click Here to Email JimC     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote Post A Reply
Thanks for the update.

What is the difference between ocean front, ocean side and ocean view. The ocean front and ocena view I think I get, but the ocean side is confusing me?

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floyddl

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posted 05-03-2005 09:56     Click Here to See the Profile for floyddl   Click Here to Email floyddl     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote Post A Reply
Ocean Front will only be available in Bldg. 1 closest to beach. Ocean Side will be the side units in Bldg 1. Ocean view will be Bldg. 2 and top floors of Bldg 3. The rest of Bldg 3 is Garden View.

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Jason

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posted 05-03-2005 18:49     Click Here to See the Profile for Jason   Click Here to Email Jason     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote Post A Reply
Not correct !!

Building 2 if OV 5th floor or higher, GV lower than 5
building 3 is the same as 2
building 4 is all GV


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Originally posted by floyddl:
Ocean Front will only be available in Bldg. 1 closest to beach. Ocean Side will be the side units in Bldg 1. Ocean view will be Bldg. 2 and top floors of Bldg 3. The rest of Bldg 3 is Garden View.

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Indigo

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posted 05-03-2005 18:58     Click Here to See the Profile for Indigo   Click Here to Email Indigo     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote Post A Reply
Hi there, any update on when they'll start to sell the Ritz? I was told they wont start promotion till Bldg.4 is sold.

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GrayFal

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posted 05-03-2005 20:40     Click Here to See the Profile for GrayFal   Click Here to Email GrayFal     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote Post A Reply
almost correct....I am a garden view owner and GV is the second and third floors or buildings 2 and 3 and all of building 4....so oceanside starts on floor 4
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Originally posted by Jason:
Not correct !!

Building 2 if OV 5th floor or higher, GV lower than 5
building 3 is the same as 2
building 4 is all GV



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JimC

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posted 05-04-2005 03:43     Click Here to See the Profile for JimC   Click Here to Email JimC     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote Post A Reply
Okay. Thanks all for the view information BUT I am still confused. Sorry.

If you are in an Ocean side unit what is it that you are looking at and how is that better than an Ocean View?

I am looking at all three and the prices and wondering what I will be giving up by not buying an Ocean Front view.

The other question is whether the investment for a gold season (we would travel to Aruba during that time of the year) is worth it. Would my other Marriott's trade in well? Would a studio consistently trade in for a 1 bdrm?

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iamnotshopgirl

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From: Pawtucket, RI, USA Owner: Marriott Aruba Surf Club
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posted 05-04-2005 04:58     Click Here to See the Profile for iamnotshopgirl   Click Here to Email iamnotshopgirl     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote Post A Reply
Jim

I own two (2) gold weeks, Oceanside Units at the Aruba Surf Club. Several months ago there was a similar thread on this board. I am trying to locate it for you but I am having difficulty. It is my understanding that Building 1 has two types of units and twelve floors. Ocean Front is just that, units facing the ocean. Now,I hope my directions are right (lol) Oceanside are units with a view north or south. That is looking south overlooking the Surf Club pool towards the Holiday Inn & other resorts)or north up the coast towards the California Light house. IMHO the higher the floor the better the view. The thread I am searching for discusses the floors which are considered Oceanside Units. In short when I bought I was told Oceanside Units are floors three (3) or better. This has changed. It is my understanding now and I have confirmed this with the resort manager that Oceanside Units are floors 1-12 and requests for room locations for higher floors by owners would be monitored by Marriott so that the room location would alternate ie. high floor one year, low the next. Maybe Dave can give me an assist by finding the thread to help clarify this issue.

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floyddl

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posted 05-04-2005 05:33     Click Here to See the Profile for floyddl   Click Here to Email floyddl     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote Post A Reply
When I purchased my OS week in March I was told that Bldg. 2 was all OV and that the upper floors, don't know the exact #s, in bldg 3 were OV as well. I really did not concern myself too much with Bldg. 2 and 3 info since my unit was in Bldg 1.

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Emi

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posted 05-05-2005 07:38     Click Here to See the Profile for Emi   Click Here to Email Emi     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote Post A Reply
Simply said, the Oceanside units is in the building adjacent to the beach closest to the ocean so you get a better and wider angle view of the ocean.Building 2 where the Oceanview units are sits further back behind the OceanFront/Oceanside Building 1 , so your view is a more distant view of the ocean and a narrower view between the Ocean Club for units facing north and the future Surf Club buildings facing south.

We own a Gold Surf Club and have split it for trade once. Marriott has been imposng "like for like" exchanges and you can not get 1 BR exchanges during prime season. I had to beg a rep to make an exception to trade the lockoff for a 1 BR at the Ocean Club for a low season week,the first week of December.I have seen November weeks for 2 BR on HHI with the lockoff.

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JimC

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posted 05-06-2005 16:52     Click Here to See the Profile for JimC   Click Here to Email JimC     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote Post A Reply
Thanks all. I think I've got it now!

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GrayFal

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posted 05-09-2005 20:28     Click Here to See the Profile for GrayFal   Click Here to Email GrayFal     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote Post A Reply
FYI - the buildings are actually 13 stories high...but the numbers in the elevator go from 1-12 to 14...we stayed on the top floor. The numbering system is weird - 4614??? I think. We also stayed on the 4th floor.
There are no guest rooms/units on the first floor of building 1 - just a small lobby and elevator area. Building 2 will have the main check-in lobby and other 'stuff' - Marketplace, gym, etc. Units will also be on the second floor - this is different then the Ocean Club which has rooms on the 1st floor/lobby level.

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JimC

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posted 05-10-2005 03:48     Click Here to See the Profile for JimC   Click Here to Email JimC     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote Post A Reply
4/28/05 prices for 2 bdrm
Platinum
OF $47,900
OS $33,600
OV $30,100
GV $24,900
Gold
OF $30,600
OS $22,300
OV $21,100
GV $19,400

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ArBravesFan

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posted 05-10-2005 05:08     Click Here to See the Profile for ArBravesFan   Click Here to Email ArBravesFan     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote Post A Reply
What purchase incentives were they offering?

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floyddl

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posted 05-10-2005 07:00     Click Here to See the Profile for floyddl   Click Here to Email floyddl     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote Post A Reply
Did you get an update on the planned completion dates? The Marriott.com site shows April 2006 for Bldg. 2 and Dec. 2007 for Bldg. 3. Not sure if this is up-to-date.

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JimC

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posted 05-10-2005 07:08     Click Here to See the Profile for JimC   Click Here to Email JimC     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote Post A Reply
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Originally posted by ArBravesFan:
What purchase incentives were they offering?

This is from corporate, not the resort, so it was the 150,000 MR points and 40,000 self referral MR points.

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floyddl

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posted 05-11-2005 11:48     Click Here to See the Profile for floyddl   Click Here to Email floyddl     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote Post A Reply
mpook2002,
Was there any mention of high speed internet access in the rooms? I believe someone mentioned that the was access in the lobby for a fee. It was my understanding that all Marriotts would be offering high speed internet in the rooms for free but that may be cost prohibitive in Aruba.

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mpook2002

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posted 05-12-2005 19:41     Click Here to See the Profile for mpook2002     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote Post A Reply
There was Internet access for as fee in the lobby of the Ocean Club and Marriot hotel. I didn't hear anything about Internet access for the rooms. I think the phones in each room had a jack for a dial up connection, but I'm not sure where you would be able to call for access. Phone rates were very expensive.

I was told that construction on Building 2 is ahead of schedule and would be opening earlier than planned.

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pwrshift

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posted 05-13-2005 05:28     Click Here to See the Profile for pwrshift   Click Here to Email pwrshift     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote Post A Reply
Why would anyone pay that price for one week when you could buy a quarter share in the Ritz for $200,000? Has Marriott overpriced the timeshare, or underpriced the Ritz?

Brian

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JimC

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posted 05-13-2005 05:53     Click Here to See the Profile for JimC   Click Here to Email JimC     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote Post A Reply
What is a quarter share?

quote:
Originally posted by pwrshift:
Why would anyone pay that price for one week when you could buy a quarter share in the Ritz for $200,000? Has Marriott overpriced the timeshare, or underpriced the Ritz?

Brian


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DannyMc

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From: Jamestown, NC, USA Own: Marriott's Royal Palms, Orlando; Marriott's Grande Ocean, Hilton Head; Marriott's Barony Beach, Hilton Head
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posted 05-13-2005 21:28     Click Here to See the Profile for DannyMc   Click Here to Email DannyMc     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote Post A Reply
quote:
Originally posted by pwrshift:
Why would anyone pay that price for one week when you could buy a quarter share in the Ritz for $200,000? Has Marriott overpriced the timeshare, or underpriced the Ritz?

Brian


Ritz-Carlton Club resorts usually sell in periods of 1/12 fractual share with a minimum of 21 days occupancy per year; not quarter-shares (13 weeks/year). Recent prices for RC Clubs: Aspen $170K to $510K; Bachelor Gulch $200K to $490K; and St. Thomas $136K to $257K.

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