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jkmeinhardt

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posted 02-07-2005 18:45     Click Here to See the Profile for jkmeinhardt   Click Here to Email jkmeinhardt     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote Post A Reply
Everyone has heard of the big names in the points systems.... Fairfield, RCI, Worldmark, Blue Green, etc.

Every once and awhile I come across a small group of resorts that have their own point system. I just thought if anyone belongs to such a system that it would be nice to hear about it.

For example, I bought a week at "Sunrise Ridge Resort" in Pigeon Forge, Tennessee. For $68 a year I get a membership in their Amber Vac-Club. This lets me use my deeded week or convert it to points that can be used at any of their five resorts. I can use the points for a full week or to get a room on a nightly bases. They even have a website for checking availability. www.vac-club.com

What really picked my interest was finding out that a group of resorts called "Island One Resorts/Club Navigo" have their own point system. I don't know how it works but I would be interested in hearing about the details.

So if you belong to such a points system I would like to hear about it.

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vicneo

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From: burr ridge, il ,usa
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posted 02-08-2005 13:35     Click Here to See the Profile for vicneo   Click Here to Email vicneo     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote Post A Reply
RVC aka raintree vacation club

has these "gems" which are convertible and incomprehensible untill you assigna numerical value.

below is my own simple system and how they convert into rci points. the sequence is gem/ vic's points/ rci points

bronze/ 1/ 16,000
silver/ 2/24,000
gold/3/ 40,000
platinum/5/ 64,000
saphhire/ 8/ 104,000
emerald/ 10/ 128,000
ruby/ 15/192,000

etc

once you have figured this out internal trades are excellent.

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jkmeinhardt

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posted 02-08-2005 19:35     Click Here to See the Profile for jkmeinhardt   Click Here to Email jkmeinhardt     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote Post A Reply
Vicneo,

This is the first I have heard of RVC & Raintree. Thanks for bringing them to my attention. I don't get the RCI point relationship. Are you saying that you can some how change your week into RCI points? Or that you are using RCI points as a reference for the trading power of a reserved week?

I did a quick search for RVC & Raintree and found there web page. It says,

"RVC allows you to exchange your Whiski Jack Resorts week(s) for accommodations at other RVC affiliated resorts. Exchanges at other RVC resorts are referred to as “internal exchanges”."

What other resorts are affiliated with RVC? I didn't see any other resorts listed.

I also found this tidbit from the web page interesting.

"To exchange through RCI, simply contact your RVC reservations consultant and request availability at the RCI affiliated resort that you wish to visit. Unlike conventional exchange systems, RVC members have “Search-first” privileges that save time and eliminate the complications normally associated with large exchange systems. “Search first” privileges allow RVC members to determine the availability of accommodations at a desired resort before being obligated to commit any of their Whiski Jack Resorts usage rights to an exchange."

So if I understand this correctly.....you can search RCI, see if there is an exchange that you want, and then deposit your week. That is a great benefit over the way most of us exchange through RCI.

Seems there is always something new to learn.

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vicneo

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posted 02-08-2005 19:47     Click Here to See the Profile for vicneo   Click Here to Email vicneo     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote Post A Reply
the points are a way of interconverting the "gems", however most rvc resorts are rci weeks resorts.
you can convert your weeks into points via points for deposit if you are points owner.

the system of preffered rci weeks exchanges is very good but you always have to do it via their reps who are sometimes less than erudite. also i do not have the ability to do online serches etc.

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boyblue

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posted 02-08-2005 19:52     Click Here to See the Profile for boyblue   Click Here to Email boyblue     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote Post A Reply
Royal Holiday Club has a points system. I don't know anything about it. I only know because I have a cousin that sold RHC.

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jkmeinhardt

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posted 02-08-2005 20:28     Click Here to See the Profile for jkmeinhardt   Click Here to Email jkmeinhardt     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote Post A Reply
quote:
Originally posted by vicneo:
the system of preffered rci weeks exchanges is very good but you always have to do it via their reps who are sometimes less than erudite. also i do not have the ability to do online serches etc.

"erudite".....talking about obscure. Good choice of words though. How could you mis-spell "preferred" after using a word like "erudite"

Having to deal with reps and not being able to do online searches would diminish the advantage of searching before depositing.

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vicneo

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posted 02-08-2005 21:33     Click Here to See the Profile for vicneo   Click Here to Email vicneo     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote Post A Reply
my typing skills underwhelm me at times

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Bill4728

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From: Sumner, WA Owner: Club Intrawest, Monarch Grand Vacation & Mountainside Lodge
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posted 02-13-2005 11:21     Click Here to See the Profile for Bill4728   Click Here to Email Bill4728     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote Post A Reply
The differnt point systems each seem to have something weird that is specific to them. Monarch Grand in SoCal has their point system that all points are given once every 24 months for use during that 24 month period. No banking, no borrowing and no home resort.
If your thinking about buying into any system which has points, be sure to check it out completely before you buy!! We are lucky here at TUG that so many peolpe are willing to explain how the differnt systems work.

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jkmeinhardt

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posted 02-13-2005 14:44     Click Here to See the Profile for jkmeinhardt   Click Here to Email jkmeinhardt     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote Post A Reply
Bill

I have heard of Monarch but know nothing about it. Is Monarch solely a points based system? I checked out their website and was wondering how good the owners section is. For instance, can you search for availability at their reorts?

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Bill4728

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From: Sumner, WA Owner: Club Intrawest, Monarch Grand Vacation & Mountainside Lodge
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posted 02-14-2005 16:01     Click Here to See the Profile for Bill4728   Click Here to Email Bill4728     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote Post A Reply
Monarch's web site is for advertising only. The member section post newsletters and other housekeeping info. You must call them for all owner info (how many pts do I have left?)and availability. The web site is to let you see pictures of the resorts.
More info is posted in the tug advice section. There are resales at some very good prices ie E Bay but many many people selling MGV don't know what they own so be very carefull when buying.

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Dean

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posted 02-14-2005 16:52     Click Here to See the Profile for Dean   Click Here to Email Dean     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote Post A Reply
Paradise Village in MX is a single resort that works on a points system. You have a unit type and size priority and a 3 month window to book your unit type before anyone else. After that you can book any time up till 31 Dec the following year. That gives you up to 2 years out starting 1 Jan. And several weeks in their system are red that are value time at the resort, that's a big advantage given the relatively cheap fees and good trading power, at least for MX.

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madprof46

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posted 02-18-2005 13:27     Click Here to See the Profile for madprof46   Click Here to Email madprof46     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote Post A Reply
sorry, double post

[This message has been edited by madprof46 (edited 02-18-2005).]

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madprof46

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posted 02-18-2005 13:32     Click Here to See the Profile for madprof46   Click Here to Email madprof46     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote Post A Reply
jkmeinhardt,

I read your comments about the Club Navigo that is run by the Island One Resorts. I'm sure it is similar to the one you have with Amber. There is a yearly fee of about $130 per year to access the club. Then the points are determined by what you own. The point values are on line at http://www.clubnavigo.com. Go under the "our resorts" link on the left side then chose a resort and the point values are at the bottom of the page in a chart. Owners are actually assigned a praticular unit and week and have a time frame where they have the first rights to that unit and week, but after that window, any member can request any open unit. The banking with II is done thru Club Navigo, where they deposit a week for you, once you request one to be banked.

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jkmeinhardt

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posted 02-18-2005 19:14     Click Here to See the Profile for jkmeinhardt   Click Here to Email jkmeinhardt     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote Post A Reply
madprof46,

Thanks...... I found the points charts. Are there any other fees involved (besides the $130) to use their points system? Also, can you use your points by the night or do you have to use a full week?

One of the features I like about Amber is the ability to use my points on a nightly bases. Only down side is after your first stay you must pay a cleaning fee.

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madprof46

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posted 02-19-2005 12:08     Click Here to See the Profile for madprof46   Click Here to Email madprof46     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote Post A Reply
Yes, partial weeks are possible, three or four day stays but not one nighters. Just like RCI points, the weekdays hav lower values than the weekend. I have not used Club Navigo except for full weeks, so I do not have first hand experience with it. I'll try to look it up in the materials and get back to you .

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smmora

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posted 03-17-2005 20:57     Click Here to See the Profile for smmora     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote Post A Reply
for Navigo (Liki TIki) you can reserve a week and then later deposit that week to Interval

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