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Topic: Club Sunterra has ended its affliation with RCI
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Marty Giggard TUG MemberPosts: 1162 From: MD/VA Registered: Dec 2000
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posted 04-11-2005 07:33
The following statements are from - a RCI Letter Of Intent that we received at a Greensprings Plantation Owners Presentation I hereby acknowledge that a member of the Public Relations Department has fully explained that Club Sunterra has ended its affiliation with RCI, and the effect this will have on my ability to exchange in the future. I further acknowledge that as per the Developer Agreement, Sunterra has made available to me their Exclusive Points Based Exchange System and Trust Based Ownership. Club Sunterra Members are entitled to:
A discounted exchange fee of $99 for each fixed week Exchange through Club Select Free exchanges in Club Sunterra Resorts Search first exchanges through Interval International [This message has been edited by Marty Giggard (edited 04-11-2005).] IP: Logged |
Marty Giggard TUG MemberPosts: 1162 From: MD/VA Registered: Dec 2000
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posted 04-11-2005 08:43
We were Invited to and Attended our First: Greensprings Plantation Owners Presentation We went because we did not know much about Greensprings and/or our new T/S ownership We recently purchased - a Lock Out Fixed Units - Fixed Weeks - Resale We were told by "Susan our Representive" who is a member of the Public Relations Department and not a Salesperson Her office is located in the lower level of the building That as a deeded Greenspring Plantation Owner We too would no longer be able to deposit/exchange with RCI Leaving us no opportunity to exchange unless we joined Club Sunterra After our 2 1/2 hour meeting with Susan We called RCI and the Vacation Guide said RCI would accept our 2006 week for deposit Here is what we were offered:
They would take our week and add it on with additional costs - deeded (trust) and/or if we came back at another time They would take our week and add it on with additional costs - Right to Use (RTU) We declined the opportunity to Join Club Sunterra and waive all the benefits of the Developers Offer Especially since some of what Susan said did not sound correct.. Checked out our recorded deed at the James City County Court House while we were in Williamsburg VA Yes, we are in the book (computer)
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Marty Giggard TUG MemberPosts: 1162 From: MD/VA Registered: Dec 2000
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posted 04-11-2005 08:46
Time - 18 Month Membership - To Think About ItWith the benefit of ownership without the obligations! IP: Logged |
Marty Giggard TUG MemberPosts: 1162 From: MD/VA Registered: Dec 2000
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posted 04-11-2005 09:02
After our Greenspings Owners Presentation with Susan We went back upstairs to the main sales area and spoke briefly with Gayle who offered us a second opportunity 18 Month Membership 17 Great Locations Flexibility Value Price Protection 100% Purchase Credit Package 10,000 Sun Options $1495.00 Total Price $299.00 Down Payment $99.67 Per Month No Pressure - We Declined Received a nice Gift and was out by noon The only problem is that I really did not get any of my personal questions answered.
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1341a TUG MemberPosts: 125 From: ontario Registered: Sep 2003
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posted 04-11-2005 09:28
Sunterra's relationship with RCI has never made sense to me. Why would a Sunterra owner pay to join their points system when they can get into RCI's for less and have more resorts to chose from? I would not be surprised to see this continue as Sunterra does whatever it can to 'encourage' owners to join the club. IP: Logged |
Kevin Jennings Non MemberPosts: 657 From: Vermont Registered: Dec 2000
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posted 04-11-2005 12:47
I didn't think 'Club Sunterra' was ever involved with RCI??? Kevin J.IP: Logged |
1341a TUG MemberPosts: 125 From: ontario Registered: Sep 2003
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posted 04-11-2005 13:14
Individual Sunterra resorts have affiliations with RCI, so that Club Sunterra would have to compete with RCI's point system to get owners to join. I know as an owner at Flamingo Beach, Club Sunterra is in direct competition with RCI for points-type memberships. I would not be surprised to see them cancel their afffiliation with RCI, especially considering their recent association with II.IP: Logged |
timeos2 Moderator TUG VolunteerPosts: 1907 From: Rochester, NY : Cypress Pointe & Westgate VV, Orlando Fl;FF Kingsgate Williamsburg, VA(FF Pts);Cove @ Yarmouth, Cape Cod MA;Rayburn CC, TX-RCI Pts Registered: Dec 2000
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posted 04-11-2005 18:53
Kevin - Club Sunterra was affilated with RCI until a few years ago when they switched to II.If a resort is affiliated with RCI/II then "deaffiliates" the owners can still maintain their membership and deposit rights with the "deaffiliated" system. But new owners, if any, would not be automatically placed into RCI/II once the affiliation ended. As an example Westgate changed primary affiliation from RCI to II many years ago. But owners at Westgate Villas who purchased when RCI was the primary exchange company can choose if they want to deposit with RCI or II (assuming they have accounts with both). But new Westgate resorts that were sold with only II can't be in RCI weeks but now can be in the RCI Points for deposit system. All exchange companies want deposits so they do all they can to make it possible for as many owners as they can to deposit their time. ------------------ John Chase Use Email Icon above for contact address IP: Logged |
Marty Giggard TUG MemberPosts: 1162 From: MD/VA Registered: Dec 2000
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posted 04-12-2005 08:41
quote: Originally posted by timeos2: Kevin - Club Sunterra was affilated with RCI until a few years ago when they switched to II.If a resort is affiliated with RCI/II then "deaffiliates" the owners can still maintain their membership and deposit rights with the "deaffiliated" system. But new owners, if any, would not be automatically placed into RCI/II once the affiliation ended. As an example Westgate changed primary affiliation from RCI to II many years ago. But owners at Westgate Villas who purchased when RCI was the primary exchange company can choose if they want to deposit with RCI or II (assuming they have accounts with both). But new Westgate resorts that were sold with only II can't be in RCI weeks but now can be in the RCI Points for deposit system. All exchange companies want deposits so they do all they can to make it possible for as many owners as they can to deposit their time.
John Chase - Thanks for this important information
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snelson TUG VolunteerPosts: 6581 From: Belly-View, WA. Owner: Embassy Poipu (floating); Winners Circle (Week 52), Raintree Vacation Club; Club Regina Registered: Dec 2000
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posted 04-12-2005 09:58
A nitpicking point of clarifications.Resort affilliation and developer affiliation are separate and distinct. Sunterra terminated is developer affiliation with RCI more than one year ago. The Sunterra resorts, to the best of my knowledge retained their RCI affiliation and added II affiliation (if they weren't already dual affiliated). As long as the resorts maintain their RCI affiliation, owners at the resorts should not be affected as long as they are depositing their weeks directly with the exchange company and not going through Club Sunterra. Since Club Sunterra membership automatically includes exchange company membership, the Club Sunterra deaffiliation with RCI means that Club Sunterra members will no longer be able to make RCI exchanges through the Club. (But if they can deposit their weeks directly without going through the Club, they should be able to continue to do do.) ------------------ Steve Nelson IP: Logged |
Marty Giggard TUG MemberPosts: 1162 From: MD/VA Registered: Dec 2000
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posted 04-12-2005 12:39
Sunterra Corporation's Grand Vacation Club renamed as Club Sunterra in 2003Is it true that you can not convert your Deeded Week into Club Sunterra without purchasing a min. # of points package? What is the min. number of points needed to convert units at Greensprings and Powhatan What is the difference between: Club Sunterra and Club Sunterra Vacations II How many different Club Sunterra programs do they have? I would be interested in seeing the "List" of Units Available on the Internet that is posted on Friday`s Does anyone have the Sunterra figures for The number of weeks owners The number of Club owners At Greensprings and Powhatan Plantation
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PStreet1 TUG MemberPosts: 1816 From: CO--but since April 22, Arizona Registered: Dec 2000
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posted 04-17-2005 05:23
Steve, the last time I checked, which was some time ago, Powhatan was still maintaining affiliation only with RCI. Did that change?Pat IP: Logged |
Kevin Jennings Non MemberPosts: 657 From: Vermont Registered: Dec 2000
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posted 04-17-2005 06:33
quote: Originally posted by PStreet1: Steve, the last time I checked, which was some time ago, Powhatan was still maintaining affiliation only with RCI. Did that change?Pat
Pat, Both Sunterra Williamsburg resorts are dual affiliated. If you're a 'weeks' owner at either resort, you MUST use RCI. If you're a Club Sunterra 'points' owner/member, you can use 'The Club' for other Sunterra resort exchanges, or use II for all exchanges, but not RCI. You also have the option as a 'Club' member of using 'ClubSelect',( for an additional fee), which enables you to deposit your "desirable" non Sunterra weeks into Club Sunterra to be converted to SunOptions/points, that are deposited into your Club Sunterra account. These can be either II or RCI affiliates, as long as they're good weeks. Kevin J. IP: Logged |
PStreet1 TUG MemberPosts: 1816 From: CO--but since April 22, Arizona Registered: Dec 2000
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posted 04-18-2005 08:19
Thanks for the reply; I'm a lowly weeks owner--wish I weren't, but they've never even approached me about converting, and from what I read, it costs a lot.Pat IP: Logged |
Marty Giggard TUG MemberPosts: 1162 From: MD/VA Registered: Dec 2000
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posted 04-20-2005 15:56
We just received our first copy of Sunterra Magazine On the back cover there is an article about a Contest SUNTERRA REFERRAL SWEEPSTAKES As a Sunterra Owner, you have a chance to win One-Time use of an Additional 10,000 SunOptions If you are a Sunterra Owner - Be sure to check this out http://www.sunterrareferral.com/contest20041031.htm [This message has been edited by Marty Giggard (edited 04-20-2005).] IP: Logged |