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suzanne TUG Member Posts: 1565 From: Pompano Beach, FL USA Registered: Dec 2000	posted 05-20-2005 10:35 We will be in St Thomas, USVI starting Dec. 10th for a week and according to the tourist site, this event is celebrated from Dec. 8 thru Dec. 15th on the Island. Can someone please advise on what type of event it is and what should we expect in the way of celebrations, closures of shops & restaurants etc. Thanks, Suzanne IP: Logged
Zac495 TUG Member Posts: 467 From: Limerick, Pa Registered: Jul 2004	posted 05-20-2005 10:45 That's a Jewish holiday. I doubt if anything will be closed. Nothing closes here in the states. It's not a high holiday. Do you know anything about the holiday or were you just interested in what might happen there? ------------------ Cheers, Ellen IP: Logged
CSB TUG Member Posts: 107 From: Ontario Canada Carriage Hills Registered: Jan 2004	posted 05-20-2005 11:12 This is a Jewish holiday. I am somewhat surprised to find it listed as a St. Thomas holiday. Chanukah is a celebration of the victory the Jewish people over the Greek occupiers who had conquered the country and tried to destroy them. The great temple in Jerusalem was in shambles; the eternal flame had been extinguished and all but one of the holy oil containers stolen or destroyed. It would take eight days for new holy oil to arrive, and the one small vial that survived would suffice for at best one day. The legend goes that a miracle occurred and instead of one day, the oil lasted eight days. The holiday is celebrated by lighting 8 candles (in a "chanukiah")in sequence, one more each day, eating 'oily' foods such as doughnuts and potato pancakes, playing with top-like toys called dreidles, and more. Schools and stores are usually open during this holiday. Cindy IP: Logged
Karen G Moderator TUG Volunteer Posts: 3115 From: Bellevue, WA; own in Hawaii, Mexico, South Africa, Texas (RCI Pts.) Registered: Dec 2000	posted 05-20-2005 13:04 If you Google 'chanukah, st. thomas, usvi' you'll find the only event that falls within that holiday period is a horse race on Dec. 11. IP: Logged
3kids4me TUG Member Posts: 4373 From: Fairfield County, CT --Owner - Smugglers' Notch - 2 bedroom, week 33 plus float-- --- I remember PJ --- Registered: Dec 2000	posted 05-20-2005 15:17 I just learned that half the white population in St. Thomas is Jewish, and they have an active reform synagogue there. Interesting!! On a completely separate note...I just have to ask...have you really never heard of Hanukkah? I guess I'm more than a little surprised that someone living in the U.S. (and especially in Florida!) would not be familiar with it. (Unless it was the alternative spelling that confused you....) Sharon [This message has been edited by 3kids4me (edited 05-20-2005).] IP: Logged
ysr_racer TUG Member Posts: 483 From: RSM, CA. USA Registered: Dec 2000	posted 05-20-2005 15:42 Eeerything I know about Judaism I learned here: http://www.jewfaq.org/ and in Hebrew school ------------------ Check out my Sporting Clays page, CLICK HERE!! ysr_racer So. Cal. USA IP: Logged
Present TUG Member Posts: 136 From: Florida, Charter Club of Marco Island Registered: Dec 2004	posted 05-20-2005 18:15 quote: Originally posted by 3kids4me: I guess I'm a more than a little surprised that someone living in the U.S. (and especially in Florida!) would not be familiar with it. Me too! Especially since South Florida has the second largest Jewish population outside of the metro NY area! ------------------ Helen IP: Logged
Icarus TUG Member Posts: 1793 From: Makawao, Maui, HI Registered: Mar 2001	posted 05-20-2005 22:25 Chanukah is the festival of lights. It's a celebration of a miracle that occurred in ancient times. There was only enough oil to light a lamp for a short period of time, and the oil lasted for a very long time. The lamp had significance. If I'm getting this part right, it was at one of the ancient temples and a lamp is required to be lit wherever there's a Torah. It's a minor but festive Jewish holiday. Being a minor holiday, religious Jews are permitted to work, drive, etc during Chanukah, so nothing really closes, even for Orthodox Jews. The important part of the celebration is the nightly lighting of the Menorah at sundown. There's one candle for each night (8 nights total) and one main candle used to light the other candles. So on the first night there are two candles, the second night 3 candles, etc. A short prayer is recited during the lighting of the candles. This is one holiday where you generally let the children light the candles. Children get to play with a driedel and small gifts like chocolate coins or a little bit of Chanukah "gelt" (money) are given to children each night. I have no idea where the gift giving part of it came from. The driedel is actually a gambling game, but I don't recall what each hebrew letter on each side of the driedel signifies for the gambling game. -David ------------------ Visit our Kauai and Maui home page at http://www.flex.com/~dmk/tug/ [This message has been edited by Icarus (edited 05-20-2005).] IP: Logged
ysr_racer TUG Member Posts: 483 From: RSM, CA. USA Registered: Dec 2000	posted 05-21-2005 15:42 Intro: this is a song, that uh, there�s a lot of Xmas songs out there, but not too many about Hanukkah, so I wrote a song for all those nice little Jewish Kids who don�t get to hear any Hanukkah songs--here we go... Put on your yarmulke, here comes Hanukkah Its so much fun-akkah to celebrate Hanukkah, Hanukkah is the festival of lights, Instead of one day of presents, we have eight crazy nights. When you feel like the only kid in town without a Xmas tree, here�s a list of people who are Jewish, just like you and me: David lee roth lights the menorah, So do James caan, kirk douglas, and the late dinah shore-ah Guess who eats together at the karnickey deli, Bowzer from sha-na-na, and arthur fonzerrelli. Paul newmans half Jewish; goldie hawns half too, Put them together--what a fine lookin� Jew! You don�t need deck the halls or jingle bell rock Cause you can spin the dreidl with captain kirk and mr. spock--both Jewish! Put on your yalmulka, it�s time for Hanukkah, The owner of the Seattle super sonic-ahs celebrates Hanukkah. O.j. Simpson-- not a Jew! But guess who is...hall of famer rod carew--(he converted!) We got ann landers and her sister dear abby, Harrison fords a quarter Jewish--not too shabby! Some people think that ebeneezer scrooge is, Well, he�s not, but guess who is, all three stooges. So many Jews are in show biz-- Tom cruise isn�t, but I heard his agent is. Tell your friend veronica, it�s time you celebrate Hanukkah I hope I get a harmonica, on this lovely, lovely Hanukkah. So drink your gin-and-tonic-ah, and smoke your mara-juanic-ah, If you really, really wanna-kah, have a happy, happy, happy, happy Hanukkah happy Hanukkah! ------------------ Check out my Sporting Clays page, CLICK HERE!! ysr_racer So. Cal. USA IP: Logged
Fern Modena TUG Member Posts: 7768 From: Southern Nevada Registered: Dec 2000	posted 05-21-2005 16:00 Brad, Cute song. You forgot about my neighbor, Bernie Schwartz. You know, Tony Curtis What kind of a Jewish name is Brad, anyway? You were named for...? Fern ------------------ Fern Modena �My words are my own, please don't use them without my permission. IP: Logged
3kids4me TUG Member Posts: 4373 From: Fairfield County, CT --Owner - Smugglers' Notch - 2 bedroom, week 33 plus float-- --- I remember PJ --- Registered: Dec 2000	posted 05-21-2005 16:10 Hey, my (Jewish) husband's name is Brad! Sharon IP: Logged
CSB TUG Member Posts: 107 From: Ontario Canada Carriage Hills Registered: Jan 2004	posted 05-21-2005 16:58 Brad, did you ask Adam Sandler if you could use his song? Cindy IP: Logged
BL Moderator TUG Volunteer Posts: 3197 From: B.C. Canada Registered: Dec 2000	posted 05-21-2005 21:43 I was familiar with Hanukah, but had never heard it "described" as Chanukah - learn something every day and still ... Bev IP: Logged
Icarus TUG Member Posts: 1793 From: Makawao, Maui, HI Registered: Mar 2001	posted 05-22-2005 00:00 Either spelling is acceptable because there is no english translation for the first Hebrew letter in the word. "H" isn't righr. "Ch" isn't correct either. So if you don't know the correct pronunciation, just use the "H" sound. Here's an explanation I found on the net: quote: The "Kh" and the "Ch" are pronounced as in German or Scottish, a throat clearing noise, not as the "ch" in "chair." -David ------------------ Visit our Kauai and Maui home page at http://www.flex.com/~dmk/tug/ [This message has been edited by Icarus (edited 05-22-2005).] IP: Logged
ysr_racer TUG Member Posts: 483 From: RSM, CA. USA Registered: Dec 2000	posted 05-22-2005 09:19 Yes, of course Adam Sandler wrote that song. It�s pretty funny and I think there are a couple of other versions out the. I'm not that clever. Like David said, there�s not really a sound in the English language for how we pronounce �CH�. It�s not like �Church�, or �Chicago�. I think to avoid confusion; people just spell it with an �H�. I�m named after my grandfather; his name was the first word of most / all Hebrew prayers. Like Hanukkah, there�s no English transliteration for it. Now if you ever meet a Jew named, Chris, Michael or Joseph, that would be unusual ------------------ Check out my Sporting Clays page, CLICK HERE!! ysr_racer So. Cal. USA IP: Logged
Fern Modena TUG Member Posts: 7768 From: Southern Nevada Registered: Dec 2000	posted 05-22-2005 10:31 Got it. So you could have been Bernard, or even Barry, I guess... Fern quote: Originally posted by ysr_racer: I�m named after my grandfather; his name was the first word of most / all Hebrew prayers. Like Hanukkah, there�s no English transliteration for it. Now if you ever meet a Jew named, Chris, Michael or Joseph, that would be unusual ------------------ Fern Modena �My words are my own, please don't use them without my permission. IP: Logged
Icarus TUG Member Posts: 1793 From: Makawao, Maui, HI Registered: Mar 2001	posted 05-22-2005 14:39 You can download Adam Sandler's Hanukkah song from here: http://www.chanuka.com/songs.shtml The lyrics alone don't do it justice. You have to hear Adam Sandler sing it. Parts I and II are different versions (different lists) listen to them both. -David ------------------ Visit our Kauai and Maui home page at http://www.flex.com/~dmk/tug/ [This message has been edited by Icarus (edited 05-22-2005).] IP: Logged
Kay H TUG Member Posts: 1216 From: Mayslanding,NJ USA owner 1/4 share Killington Grand Registered: Dec 2000	posted 05-22-2005 14:55 I know several Jewish Michaels. ------------------ Kay H IP: Logged
Larry TUG Member Posts: 784 From: Long Island, NY - Playa Linda, Aruba wks 51& 11.Aruba Renaissance wk 2 St. Marteen, Pelican wks 50 & 51. Jockey Club, Vegas, wk 8 - Flagship AC Registered: Dec 2000	posted 05-22-2005 15:08 quote: Originally posted by ysr_racer: Yes, of course Adam Sandler wrote that song. It�s pretty funny and I think there are a couple of other versions out the. I'm not that clever. Like David said, there�s not really a sound in the English language for how we pronounce �CH�. It�s not like �Church�, or �Chicago�. I think to avoid confusion; people just spell it with an �H�. I�m named after my grandfather; his name was the first word of most / all Hebrew prayers. Like Hanukkah, there�s no English transliteration for it. Now if you ever meet a Jew named, Chris, Michael or Joseph, that would be unusual Both Joseph and Michael are very common jewish names. ------------------ Larry IP: Logged
suzanne TUG Member Posts: 1565 From: Pompano Beach, FL USA Registered: Dec 2000	posted 05-22-2005 16:09 Thanks everyone. It was the spelling that confused me. I have never seen it spelled this way before. I saw the dates for the event listed on the USVI Tourism Site. It shows that it runs from Dec. 8th thru Dec. 15th. Suzanne IP: Logged
ysr_racer TUG Member Posts: 483 From: RSM, CA. USA Registered: Dec 2000	posted 05-22-2005 20:00 Growing up in a Jewish family, I can tell you I�ve never met any Jews named Michael, Christopher, Joseph or Peter. We must know different people As far as being named for my grandfather, in Jewish tradition most children are named for a deceased relative. Sometimes it�s just the same first letter. So no, I never met my grandfather. But it�s funny the things we remember from when we were kids. I grew up in a predominately Jewish neighborhood on the north side of Chicago. I remember thinking that all �old� people had numbers tattooed on their arm. I later thankfully found out they didn�t. ------------------ Check out my Sporting Clays page, CLICK HERE!! ysr_racer So. Cal. USA [Edited to delete comment that - in accordance with the specific rule posted at the top of this page - is not permitted on this forum. Dave M] [This message has been edited by Dave M (edited 05-23-2005).] IP: Logged
Icarus TUG Member Posts: 1793 From: Makawao, Maui, HI Registered: Mar 2001	posted 05-22-2005 23:30 I think you should quit while you're ahead. Otherwise some folks might think you are inadvertantly promoting the notion of stereotypes. -David ------------------ Visit our Kauai and Maui home page at http://www.flex.com/~dmk/tug/ [Edited to delete response to a now-deleted comment in the preceding post. Dave M] [This message has been edited by Dave M (edited 05-23-2005).] IP: Logged
Judy321 TUG Member Posts: 1068 From: Registered: Mar 2004	posted 05-29-2005 17:34 I'm Jewish, and my cousin (also Jewish) is named Michael. Actually, I know several Jews named Michael. I think I may also know one or two Jews named Joseph. I wouldn't expect any Jews to be named Christopher because the "Christo" part is actually Greek, not Hebrew. Even if one wanted to name a Jewish kid "savior", one wouldn't use the Greek version. Peter also is not an name in the Torah (Jewish Bible.) IP: Logged
ysr_racer TUG Member Posts: 483 From: RSM, CA. USA Registered: Dec 2000	posted 05-31-2005 17:36 Next you guys will be telling me you know people that have a "Hanukkah bush" ------------------ Check out my Sporting Clays page, CLICK HERE!! ysr_racer So. Cal. USA IP: Logged
Cat Moderator TUG Volunteer Posts: 3381 From: Now in sunny Florida! Registered: Dec 2000	posted 06-01-2005 05:11 quote: Originally posted by Judy321: Actually, I know several Jews named Michael. I think I may also know one or two Jews named Joseph. Michael Medved, Michael Eisner, Peter D. Kramer, Peter S. Beagle, Joseph Brodsky and Joseph Heller spring to mind... ------------------ --Cat [This message has been edited by Cat (edited 06-01-2005).] IP: Logged

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