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Zac495

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posted 06-05-2005 13:11     Click Here to See the Profile for Zac495   Click Here to Email Zac495     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote Post A Reply
I need help.

Situation: My husband's 16 year old daughter wants to live with us. She currently lives with her mother and brother (he's 14). We're seeking custody of only the girl, as the boy has never liked me and things are difficult with him. We want custody because SHE wants it. Her reasons (aloud) is that the school is better here (true) and has great courses for the gifted kids (true - she's in the gifted program)

We currently see her every other weekend. Mom lives nearby (different district). Mom has been in and out of out-patient medical care recently and lost her job. She's on disability and FMLA. She is looking for a job. She makes very little money, and lives mostly on child care. Other than that, she's nice enough - loves her kids, decent mother.

We need to know what rights we have (of course we're going to get a lawyer, but I was hoping for some insight here).

Is it going to be her choice? We're in the state of PA , by the way.

Will we have to pay the same amount of child support, or only the support for the son who won't come?

Will it be a huge fight?
THANKS

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Cheers,
Ellen

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wauhob3

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From: Valparaiso, IN Christmas Mountain Village week 27 and 30
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posted 06-05-2005 13:21     Click Here to See the Profile for wauhob3   Click Here to Email wauhob3     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote Post A Reply
Ellen is there other reasons for the girl to want to live with you other than the school district? Many times teens of that age try to switch to a more permissive parent or ones who will spend more money on them. So you may want to evaluate if the possibility exists your step-daughter may think this is the case. I'm not saying it is. If it is mainly the school since its near by can't she use your address and the mother transport her to school?

As far as it getting ugly it very well may. I saw this happen with a friend's teen recently. Her father is easy going and she would have a lot more freedom if she went to her Dad's. There was a court battle and and the judge ordered a home study done. After a couple of court dates and the study she changed her mind anyways and stayed with her Mom.

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Zac495

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posted 06-05-2005 13:25     Click Here to See the Profile for Zac495   Click Here to Email Zac495     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote Post A Reply
No. The school isn't near enough. My husband travels 2 weeks per month - failed to mention that by the way.
It's 45 minutes away, so she can't do that.

I think further reasons are probably that she's sick of living with her mother - who doesn't work - and living in a 2 bedroom apartment (she shares it with her mom). But honestly, I think the biggest reason is the great courses at our school.

she gets along with both parents and me. She gets mad like any teenager at both parents and me. I don't think she likes either of us better. Actually, mom is more permissive than dad.

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jkjsless

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posted 06-05-2005 13:26     Click Here to See the Profile for jkjsless     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote Post A Reply
If it were me, I'd have your husband speak to his ex, tell her of their daughter's wishes and see what she says. If it is NO I would find a lawyer who specializes in family law in your area. Speak with friends, neighbours, co-workers to get names of lawyers they have used and were happy with. You do not necessarily need the most prominent, most expensive or most litigous family lawyer in the state, however, you will need someone with experience, an excellent knowledge of family law and able to work within your budget.

good luck

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dbmMayer

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posted 06-05-2005 13:43     Click Here to See the Profile for dbmMayer   Click Here to Email dbmMayer     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote Post A Reply
Does Mom have SOLE LEGAL custody, or do the parents have JOINT custody and the children just live with her? If the later, you probably don't have to go to court at all. I would approach the mom about this nicely and point out the advantages to the daughter and set up a generous visitation schedule. She might appreciate having one less mouth feed right now, if she feels the move would be a positive one for the daughter.

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wauhob3

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posted 06-05-2005 13:58     Click Here to See the Profile for wauhob3   Click Here to Email wauhob3     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote Post A Reply
Are you on good terms with the Mom? I agree with your husband approaching his ex-wife and asking on their daughter's behalf but since her father is only home half the month it doesn't seem like a judge would order a custody change from a stay at home Mom to a Dad who isn't home half the month. Is there a private school she could attend that would have a good program if the school is a problem?

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teepeeca

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posted 06-05-2005 14:07     Click Here to See the Profile for teepeeca   Click Here to Email teepeeca     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote Post A Reply
In many states, if it does go to court, the "child" DOES have a say in the procedings, and where he/she would like to live.

It depends upon the state and the age of the dependent.

Get all of your "ducks" in order, before approaching her Mom. Go to your school district/school, and have classes and schedules printed out, and acceptance into the specific classes for the daughter.

Have a "parents" and "teenager" "bill of rights" and a "contract" written, so everybody knows where they stand, and what is expected of each other. (No surprises !!!)

Make sure everybody is aggreeable and understands "what is expected".

Approach the Mom with the attitude that "this would be in the best interests of the daughter". Make sure that your attitude is NOT one of "putting-down" the Mom.

Have a "well thought-out" plan WHY it is not possible to take the son, right now. (He might get the feeling that HE is being abandoned.) Make sure that he KNOWS that the father DOES love him.

Hopefully this will work out, by both parents sitting down and having a quiet, reasonable discussion, and doing what is "best" for the child/children.

Tony

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Rose Pink

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posted 06-05-2005 16:42     Click Here to See the Profile for Rose Pink     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote Post A Reply
Tony makes a good point about making sure the daughter will be accepted into the gifted program at your school. Just because she is in one at her school does not mean she will automatically be accepted at the new school. It would be wise to talk with the gifted program coordinator.

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Tia

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posted 06-05-2005 19:43     Click Here to See the Profile for Tia     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote Post A Reply
Being 16 if she makes the move she'll be putting a fair distance between herself and any friends who are usually a big part of a teens daily life. Sounds like a tough time for her mother all the way around. Hope it can be worked out without a fight.

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MoeDan2727

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posted 06-06-2005 01:20     Click Here to See the Profile for MoeDan2727   Click Here to Email MoeDan2727     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote Post A Reply
Can't be much help in the legal advice living in Canada and all, except to get a good lawyer and hope that the ex doesn't fight it.

However, can give you my past esperience.

When my daughter was 12 she expressed the same desire and with similar circumstances (she has two younger borthers).

We went through the courts (who did listen at a much younger age) and after a long battle won custody.

She is now 26 and just bought her first house and will be getting married soon.

The ex hasn't spoken to me since we "stole her daughter" but if you do it right everything can work out.

My current wife is a wonderful person who was instramental in convincing the court appointed "officla guradoian" that it was the right move.

You sound like a good wife which should help.

Good luck and keep the daughters hopes up.

Dan

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