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myip

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posted 01-11-2005 15:42     Click Here to See the Profile for myip   Click Here to Email myip     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote Post A Reply
How does it work for request first? Do you call Starwood to assign a week to your account so that you can look at the inventory and have an on-going search in II? Do you deal directly with II or just with Starwood? Is the II account only for Starwood property or I can use it for other timeshare? Is there different process of searching if you brought a resale non-mandatory resort?

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fredm

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posted 01-11-2005 17:03     Click Here to See the Profile for fredm   Click Here to Email fredm     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote Post A Reply
myip.
You must always have a reserved week at your home resort to exchange. Does not matter which method you use.You always must have something specific to give
If you own at a mandatory resort, and a SVN member, you must go through Starwood for an exchange with I.I. They will want your exchange choices.The week you give to them becomes irrelevent, as they will deposit what they wish to obtain your requested exchange.Request first is not an option.
If you own at a "non Club" or voluntary reasort,and purchased resale then you are not an SVN member,and your relationship with I.I. is a direct one. You must become an I.I. member first of course. To repeat, If you wish to exchange, you must have a specific week to offer, so you must make a reservation. Request first is no different in that regard. What does matter if requesting first, is the amount of time from the request to the actual reservation date of the week you have.The longer the better, but not less than 60 days.
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arlene22

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posted 01-11-2005 17:06     Click Here to See the Profile for arlene22   Click Here to Email arlene22     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote Post A Reply
When you belong to SVN, you are assigned a generic week you can use to do your own searching online. It will show up in your II account.

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posted 01-11-2005 20:24     Click Here to See the Profile for myip   Click Here to Email myip     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote Post A Reply
Thanks for the reply. I just want to make sure I understand correctly. For example, if I brought a resale in Sheraton Broadway Plantation.

1. Reserved a home week - ie: prime summer week
2. Joint II
3. Call II that I want to do a request first on my prime summer week
4. If the trade came through, do I have to do anything else. Will Sheraton allow me to deposit that prime summer week into II?

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myip

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posted 01-11-2005 20:35     Click Here to See the Profile for myip   Click Here to Email myip     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote Post A Reply
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arlene22

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posted 01-12-2005 06:05     Click Here to See the Profile for arlene22   Click Here to Email arlene22     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote Post A Reply
SVN will take your prime summer week (presumably rent it out) and give II any old week for your exchange. So reserving a hot week won't get you anywhere with II. If you were to deposit it with an independent exchange company, you would get the trade power of the prime week you were giving them.

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ciscogizmo1

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posted 01-12-2005 07:19     Click Here to See the Profile for ciscogizmo1     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote Post A Reply
quote:
Originally posted by arlene22:
SVN will take your prime summer week (presumably rent it out) and give II any old week for your exchange. So reserving a hot week won't get you anywhere with II. If you were to deposit it with an independent exchange company, you would get the trade power of the prime week you were giving them.


I don't think Starwood would rent out the week. That would be like them taking two weeks for the one week the owner is giving up. I thought Starwood made sure the owners kept prime weeks but giving II a lesser week. I believe the only time Starwood can rent out the week is if the owner turned the week into Starpoints (for hotel, airline exchanges) or the owner specifically requested that the unit to be rented. Tina

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posted 01-12-2005 08:12     Click Here to See the Profile for myip   Click Here to Email myip     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote Post A Reply
Now, I am lost!!

How can I do request first with II? If I don't get at good exchange for II, I would rather go to my prime summer reserved week. If I do find an exchange that I want, will Starwood substitute another week (non prime summer week) for deposit? Will II take it so I can have the exchange?

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posted 01-12-2005 08:17     Click Here to See the Profile for dbmMayer   Click Here to Email dbmMayer     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote Post A Reply
quote:
Originally posted by myip:
Now, I am lost!!

How can I do request first with II? If I don't get at good exchange for II, I would rather go to my prime summer reserved week. If I do find an exchange that I want, will Starwood substitute another week (non prime summer week) for deposit? Will II take it so I can have the exchange?

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II has an agreement with Starwood - they HAVE to take the week Starwood gives them. If you want to exchange the week of your choice, do it through an outside exchange Co. We have deposited our Starwood unit with SFX for Easter and 4th of July weeks.

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ciscogizmo1

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posted 01-12-2005 08:58     Click Here to See the Profile for ciscogizmo1     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote Post A Reply
Sorry this is confusing...

If you decide to deposit your week with II then, starwood would pick the week that they want to deposit regardless of the week you picked to reserve. They will not pick summer weeks or holiday weeks because they want to reserve those for their owners.

If you deposit your week with an independent exchange company then, Starwood would have to give them the week you reserved.

Hopefully, that makes sense.
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myip

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posted 01-12-2005 09:20     Click Here to See the Profile for myip   Click Here to Email myip     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote Post A Reply
Let me summarize my understanding.

1. Reserve a week with Starwood (prime week - in case I can't find an exchange that I like and would like to go back to my home resort).
2. Call II for request first based on the prime week or do I call Starwood to assign a week for Request First with II?
3. Once, I found the exchange that I want, Starwood will deposit whatever week they want to II.

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ciscogizmo1

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posted 01-12-2005 10:42     Click Here to See the Profile for ciscogizmo1     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote Post A Reply
quote:
Originally posted by myip:
Let me summarize my understanding.

1. Reserve a week with Starwood (prime week - in case I can't find an exchange that I like and would like to go back to my home resort).
2. Call II for request first based on the prime week or do I call Starwood to assign a week for Request First with II?
3. Once, I found the exchange that I want, Starwood will deposit whatever week they want to II.


1. I think you are correct but to verify I would call starwood.

2. I am not sure how this works with request first option. I would call starwood and ask. I looked on the advice page I didn't see anything that directly related to your question. Here's the link and maybe you'll find some useful information in there.
http://www.tug2.net/advice/Starwood_Vacation_Network.htm

3. Again, I think you need to call starwood directly. My post was referring to deposit exchanges only. I am not sure how the request first works since I've never done it.

Sorry to confuse you...

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myip

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posted 01-12-2005 11:25     Click Here to See the Profile for myip   Click Here to Email myip     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote Post A Reply
quote:
Originally posted by ciscogizmo1:
1. I think you are correct but to verify I would call starwood.


I wish that I could call them but they won't talk to me because I am not an owner yet. Hoping for someone will know the answer.

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arlene22

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posted 01-12-2005 13:54     Click Here to See the Profile for arlene22   Click Here to Email arlene22     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote Post A Reply
quote:
Originally posted by ciscogizmo1:
I don't think Starwood would rent out the week. That would be like them taking two weeks for the one week the owner is giving up. I thought Starwood made sure the owners kept prime weeks but giving II a lesser week. I believe the only time Starwood can rent out the week is if the owner turned the week into Starpoints (for hotel, airline exchanges) or the owner specifically requested that the unit to be rented. Tina



Yes, I think Tina is right.

I just called II. They have a separate department for Starwood people, so this should apply. She said you reserve your week from Starwood. Then call II, give them that information and put in your "Request First" search. The week that you reserve must have a date that is AFTER the week you are requesting. If they are unable to fill your request, you get your week back.

Hope that helps.

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fredm

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posted 01-13-2005 17:39     Click Here to See the Profile for fredm   Click Here to Email fredm     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote Post A Reply
myip,

The difficulty I think you are having is with the fact that if you are an SVN member, you do not have a direct relationship with I.I. Therefore, you may not interact with them for purposes of an exchange at all. All exchange requests must go through SVN. Period. As previously mentioned, request first is not an option. They will take the reserved week and do what they wish with it, and deposit whatever they wish to affect your request. Indeed, most likely the week used will already have been previously deposited as part of a periodic bulk deposit for that purpose. The bulk deposit inventory can be comprised of any week at any resort in the network. The only way to accomplish what you are suggesting is for the member to withdraw from SVN and become a full member of I.I. Membership in SVN and any external exchange organization are not compatable (for the purpose of exchanging the week at the resort the SVN status is attached to). Therein lies the downside of SVN membership. One gets to request an internal exchange at the 8 month window at the expense of being able to trade their week freely in any other way. Although that may not be the way it is presented, it is the bottom line. Many conclude that the trade off is worth it. Then again, many have not taken the rules of participation to their stated conclusion. It really is an indivdual decision based on how one intends to use it. It is a sword that cuts both ways.

If your example of purchasing a resale at Broadway Plantation is the real world case in point, then you will not be an SVN member, and all the restrictions do not apply. It is a straightforward matter to request first. Reserve a week, call I.I. and tell them you wish to request first, giving them the ownership info and reservation dates held. The dates of your reserved week should be at least 60 days out, but the farther the better. If the trade is refused , you still have your reserved week. Keep in mind that Reserve First cannot be accrued into the future as a deposit first can. It drops dead at the reservation date, so you must be prepared to use it another way. Hence the need for the 60 day advance. Outside that 60 day window you are able to convert to a deposit first and bank for an additional 2 years without any restriction on your trade request.

Fredm

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