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Sandy Lovell

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posted 05-06-2005 11:09     Click Here to See the Profile for Sandy Lovell   Click Here to Email Sandy Lovell     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote Post A Reply
http://www.tahiti1.com/en/details/tht_details.asp?news_id=1724

229 timeshares are part of the proposal.

Wow. Hilton outside of Vegas, Hawaii and Orlando.

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ricoba

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posted 05-06-2005 11:29     Click Here to See the Profile for ricoba   Click Here to Email ricoba     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote Post A Reply
Do you think it will be HGVC or a Hilton Club?

What is the primary tourist market for Tahiti? It's a long flight from here I assume. But it would be great for a once in a lifetime experience.

Thanks for the link.

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gmarine

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posted 05-06-2005 16:41     Click Here to See the Profile for gmarine   Click Here to Email gmarine     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote Post A Reply

Flight is about 7 1/2 from the west coast. Went their on my honeymoon in 1997. Huahine is a beautifull island a short flight from Tahiti. I imagine if this gets off the ground the timeshares will be extremely expensive. Probably more than anything else in the US.

Hotels are very expensive. Overwater bungalows on Moorea and Bora Bora currently cost upwards of $700 to $900 per night at the luxury properties. Much of the tourism in French Polynesia comes from France of course.

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rfb813

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posted 05-06-2005 16:54     Click Here to See the Profile for rfb813   Click Here to Email rfb813     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote Post A Reply
The Tahiti development will be undertaken by Hilton International. The only Hilton International Grand Vacation Company (HIGVC) resorts in HGVC are the ones in Scotland. The HIGVC resort in Egypt is not included. So if there is a Timeshare/Fractional component there is no guarantee that it will be in HGVC.

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Rod222

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posted 05-06-2005 21:53     Click Here to See the Profile for Rod222     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote Post A Reply
As I understand it from having talked to HIGVC in the past, their members get use of HIGVC clubs in Scotland as well as Egypt and the ability to use the clubs in the USA. So if you were to purchase Scotland or Tahiti, you would still have use privledges in the USA as well as all the other international HIGVC properties.

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iiderman

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posted 05-07-2005 05:52     Click Here to See the Profile for iiderman   Click Here to Email iiderman     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote Post A Reply
quote:
Originally posted by rfb813:
The Tahiti development will be undertaken by Hilton International. The only Hilton International Grand Vacation Company (HIGVC) resorts in HGVC are the ones in Scotland. The HIGVC resort in Egypt is not included. So if there is a Timeshare/Fractional component there is no guarantee that it will be in HGVC.


You are absolutely correct.. When they refer to timeshares here, it is not HGVC but HIGVC..

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ricoba

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posted 05-07-2005 08:26     Click Here to See the Profile for ricoba   Click Here to Email ricoba     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote Post A Reply
You have to wonder about Hilton's approach to timeshares....

They have one corporate brand name with three different products....

HGVC - Hilton Club & HIGVC...

Does any other hotel timeshare do it this way?

Rick

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Blues

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posted 05-07-2005 11:42     Click Here to See the Profile for Blues   Click Here to Email Blues     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote Post A Reply
I own at Craigendarroch (sp?) Scotland, which I purchased directly from HIGVC. The purchase included membership and the first 3 years dues to HGVC (not HIGVC). I believe that any HGVC member can reserve Scotland. I was not aware that I have an ability to reserve Egypt, but I haven't really looked. Are there any other Scotland HGVC owners out there that can clarify? As far as I know, I have exactly the same reservation possibilities as any other HGVC owner; no more, no less.

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iiderman

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posted 05-07-2005 14:04     Click Here to See the Profile for iiderman   Click Here to Email iiderman     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote Post A Reply
Hi Rick.. beleive me, I share your disappointment.. It's all very confusing but here's what I know... Hilton Grand Vacation Club (HGVC)is owned and operated by USA based Hilton Hotels Corporation.. Hilton International Grand Vacations Company (HIGVC) who presently operates 4 resorts in Scotland and Egypt is owned by Hilton International, an operating division of the UK based Hilton Group plc (who also owns the rights to the Hilton brand name throughout the world, with the exception of the USA) Then there is the Hilton Club (an urban timeshare product) which is also owned by USA based Hilton Hotels Corporation. All three let their membership exchange into resorts under the other two groups but selectively. For example HGVC members can trade into Scotland, but not Egypt.. HGVC elite members can trade into the Hilton Club but not "standard" members.. and so on.

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ricoba

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posted 05-07-2005 14:18     Click Here to See the Profile for ricoba   Click Here to Email ricoba     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote Post A Reply
Idil, you haven't posted for a long time....welcome back...I think they got rid of our "friends" either while you were on your ski trip or shortly after

Yes, it is confusing. Not that I will probably ever make it to Egypt or Tahiti, it just seems like it would be simpler if they were all branded the same with different levels of membership. I read somewhere on HGVC that Hilton Clubs are managed by HGVC which surprised me since standard club owners can't trade in there. Yet if you look on the sightings board you will see people getting into Hilton Club via Sfx. So if I ever wanted to go to the Hilton Club that would be the way to go.

Anyway welcome back to the posting world

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rfb813

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posted 05-07-2005 15:47     Click Here to See the Profile for rfb813   Click Here to Email rfb813     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote Post A Reply
Hilton Hotels Corp. US)sold the International(non US)rights to the Hilton name to the British group which formed Hilton International. In order to operate hotels outside the US, Hilton (US) formed Conrad Hotels International. My understanding is that now Hilton (US) has formed a Joint Venture with Hilton International to develop and operate the Conrad brand worldwide. Perhaps it would make sense for Hilton and HI to form a Joint Venture to develop and operate timeshare properties worldwide under the HGVC brand.

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ricoba

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posted 05-07-2005 18:46     Click Here to See the Profile for ricoba   Click Here to Email ricoba     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote Post A Reply
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Originally posted by rfb813:
Perhaps it would make sense for Hilton and HI to form a Joint Venture to develop and operate timeshare properties worldwide under the HGVC brand.


That seems to make sense. Just not sure if it makes sense to Hilton Corporate.

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