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seenett

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From: Oregon , USA Owner: Marriott BeachPlace; Foxrun; Westin Kierland
Registered: Jan 2001

posted 05-06-2005 11:42     Click Here to See the Profile for seenett   Click Here to Email seenett     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote Post A Reply
It looks like I need to update TUG's Starwood FAQ again! I think I originally wrote it in 2001 when I was one of the first novice owners in this new program. I have updated it several times and yet things keep changing! Many of you are now more expert that I am - espcially those of you owning muliple weeks at multiple resorts.

I need to include information about the Elite program (which I know little about as I am just a one week owner). I would also like to include a chart of StarPoint values by season, size and property.

What else should I include? Should I editorialize about the feasability of exchanging into the "Big 3" at the 8 month mark? Should I share some other "secrets" that have have been posted here over the last few years?

Please email me any ideas or specifics that you think I should include (or not include) or change. Of course, I will give appropriate credit to all submitters in the final version!

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Chris

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dbmMayer

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From: Northern CA Owner: Westin Ka'anapali & Sheraton Desert Oasis
Registered: Jul 2003

posted 05-06-2005 12:45     Click Here to See the Profile for dbmMayer   Click Here to Email dbmMayer     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote Post A Reply
Chris - There is a lot of info. about the Elite program on www.mystarcentral.com and other info. under USING YOUR OWNERSHIP, that you would probably find helpful for your update.

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Denise

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stevens397

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From: Randolph, NJ, Owner: Westin Kierland Villas, Marriott Fairway Villas
Registered: Dec 2002

posted 05-06-2005 15:31     Click Here to See the Profile for stevens397   Click Here to Email stevens397     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote Post A Reply
Others will give more details for you. As for me, just want to say that you're one of a kind, and a perfect reason why so many of us are so passionate about TUG and eager to follow your lead and help others. You need to know that when I first purchased at Kierland just over one year ago, your article is what made the difference. Many thanks.

Steve

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grgs

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From: Oceanside, CA Owner: Westin Kierland
Registered: Dec 2004

posted 05-06-2005 20:47     Click Here to See the Profile for grgs   Click Here to Email grgs     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote Post A Reply
I'll compile the maintenance fees that I requested in a post couple of weeks ago and send them to you.

I have the m.f. for 2 bedroom units at Mission Hills, Kierland, Vistana Villages, Ka'anapali and Mountain Vista. If any of you know the m.f. for 1 bedrooms or studios or 2 bedrooms at the resorts missing above, please let me know.

Glorian

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seenett

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From: Oregon , USA Owner: Marriott BeachPlace; Foxrun; Westin Kierland
Registered: Jan 2001

posted 05-07-2005 13:03     Click Here to See the Profile for seenett   Click Here to Email seenett     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote Post A Reply
Thanks for all the replies so far.

Denise - I can't find Elite information on mystarcentral. The site seems to be personalized to what you own, and since I don't have Elite status, maybe they ommitted it.

I will start a new thread asking for StarPoint values from owners so I can compile them

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Chris

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dbmMayer

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From: Northern CA Owner: Westin Ka'anapali & Sheraton Desert Oasis
Registered: Jul 2003

posted 05-07-2005 13:11     Click Here to See the Profile for dbmMayer   Click Here to Email dbmMayer     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote Post A Reply
Chris - Here is a link to the Elite Info. page. When I log on, there is a link to it on the homepage and I don't have Elite status either, because we bought a resale at SDO.
www.mystarcentral.com/elite/index.jsp

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Denise

[This message has been edited by dbmMayer (edited 05-07-2005).]

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Pedro

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From: Merritt Island, Florida. Own at Westin Mission Hills, Westin Kaanapali, Lakeside Terrace
Registered: Aug 2004

posted 05-07-2005 14:47     Click Here to See the Profile for Pedro   Click Here to Email Pedro     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote Post A Reply
Chris,

Here is the information in case you can't access the link sent by Denise:
3* 4* 5*

Annual SPG points conversion Y Y Y
Avis Preferred Membership Y Y Y
Villa unit upgrade Request Request Automatic
Friendship rewards (std. 20,000 points) 30,000 35,000 40,000
$99 starpoint conversion fee waived N Y Y
Early villa check in (2 pm) N Y Y
SVN waitlist while holding reservations N Y Y
$129 SVN annual membership waived N N Y
Automatic SPG Platinum membership N N Y
Late villa check out (12 noon) N N Y
Platinum concierge N N Y

[This message has been edited by Pedro (edited 05-07-2005).]

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deniselew1

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From: San Jose, CA USA Own at Westin Ka'anapali
Registered: Aug 2003

posted 05-08-2005 10:40     Click Here to See the Profile for deniselew1   Click Here to Email deniselew1     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote Post A Reply
Hi Chris,

I don't know if this belongs in a Starwood FAQ, but current information about upcoming resorts might be helpful (if there was any). For example, we get asked about the Maui "sister" resort occasionally, and we do know that they will eventually be building in the Princeville area of Kauai and maybe add-ons to the Sheraton there. Supposedly there is property on the Big Island too. We also get asked about Mexico a lot, and whether Starwood is taking over any resorts or building new ones. I can't recall what happened to the Aladdin deal in Las Vegas, but maybe that's not Starwood anymore?!

I know it may be years for any of these properties to be open, but we might include a section on the "future properties we've heard about," or we could just have a "rumors" section, or then again, nothing at all about things that aren't real.

You've done a great job updating the FAQs!

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dbmMayer

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From: Northern CA Owner: Westin Ka'anapali & Sheraton Desert Oasis
Registered: Jul 2003

posted 05-08-2005 12:29     Click Here to See the Profile for dbmMayer   Click Here to Email dbmMayer     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote Post A Reply
Chris - If you think it is appropriate, you can post the link to my webpage about the WKOVR II, if you are going to include a section on future developments - http://dbmmayer.diaryland.com/WKORV_II.html

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deniselew1

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From: San Jose, CA USA Own at Westin Ka'anapali
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posted 05-08-2005 13:46     Click Here to See the Profile for deniselew1   Click Here to Email deniselew1     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote Post A Reply
We also get a lot of questions about StarPoint conversion and its value when buying from the developer.

We could add a section about the perceived value of Starpoints, referring to some owners who don't think the conversion is worth it, while others take their Starpoints and go on many great vacations with them. In the end, it's obviously a personal choice but we could add the pros and cons in the FAQs and then maybe won't have to repeat ourselves so much in threads. Just a thought.

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Go2curves

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From: Stockton, CA, USA
Registered: Apr 2004

posted 05-10-2005 09:09     Click Here to See the Profile for Go2curves   Click Here to Email Go2curves     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote Post A Reply
Pedro, your chart on the Elite levels was great. Just a small correction re: uprade requests:
3* - Can call and request from 30-10 days in advance
4* - Can call and request from 60-10 days in advance
5* - Automatic upgrade at 60 days in advance.

There will only be 2,000 5* Platinum Elite cards issued. When they're gone, they're supposedly gone. If you travel and use the Starwood hotels, the Platinum perks are a nice benefit. Supposedly get upgraded to top floors of the hotels. Late check out, automatic unit upgrades and personal concierge are nice, but like SPG points, have to weigh whether those have personal value or not.
Christy

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Go2curves

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From: Stockton, CA, USA
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posted 05-10-2005 09:18     Click Here to See the Profile for Go2curves   Click Here to Email Go2curves     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote Post A Reply
Here's some interesting info I learned yesterday. Maybe someone else can confirm this. Our sales rep said calling in at the 8th month isn't necessarily the best time to call in for one of the high demand properties. It was explained to us that even though it's the 8th month mark, an owner's unit isn't available until they call to make their reservation at another resort. For instance, a St. John owner's unit is still their unit until they confirm their reservation or make one at another location. If they don't call until the 6 mo. mark, their unit isn't available until that time. That would explain why there might not be any units available 3 min. into call time on the 8th mo. We were told to ask to be waitlisted. Elite owners will get priorty on the waitlist depending on their * status.

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dbmMayer

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From: Northern CA Owner: Westin Ka'anapali & Sheraton Desert Oasis
Registered: Jul 2003

posted 05-10-2005 10:37     Click Here to See the Profile for dbmMayer   Click Here to Email dbmMayer     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote Post A Reply
quote:
Originally posted by Go2curves:
Here's some interesting info I learned yesterday. Maybe someone else can confirm this. Our sales rep said calling in at the 8th month isn't necessarily the best time to call in for one of the high demand properties. It was explained to us that even though it's the 8th month mark, an owner's unit isn't available until they call to make their reservation at another resort. For instance, a St. John owner's unit is still their unit until they confirm their reservation or make one at another location. If they don't call until the 6 mo. mark, their unit isn't available until that time. That would explain why there might not be any units available 3 min. into call time on the 8th mo. We were told to ask to be waitlisted. Elite owners will get priorty on the waitlist depending on their * status.

According to the Starwood magazine I got yesterday, if you own a fixed week and don't book your home resort by 8 mos. then your week is automatically converted to StarOptions, so it would be available at 8 mos. to someone else. Of course, that wouldn't apply to floating weeks. I think the Mag. info. is available on www.mystarcentral.com if you didn't get a copy.

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Denise

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theunitrep

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From: Vista, CA Own at: Westin Ka`anapali, Sheraton Mountain Vista and Parkway International
Registered: Feb 2004

posted 05-10-2005 12:13     Click Here to See the Profile for theunitrep   Click Here to Email theunitrep     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote Post A Reply
quote:
Originally posted by Go2curves:
...the 8th month isn't necessarily the best time to call in for one of the high demand properties. It was explained to us that even though it's the 8th month mark, an owner's unit isn't available until they call to make their reservation at another resort.

Thanks for the insight. After thinking about this explanation it makes more sense why there aren't as many units available at "The Big Three" as I would have hoped to see.

Jerry

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Pedro

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From: Merritt Island, Florida. Own at Westin Mission Hills, Westin Kaanapali, Lakeside Terrace
Registered: Aug 2004

posted 05-10-2005 12:23     Click Here to See the Profile for Pedro   Click Here to Email Pedro     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote Post A Reply
quote:
Originally posted by Go2curves:
Pedro, your chart on the Elite levels was great. Just a small correction re: uprade requests:
3* - Can call and request from 30-10 days in advance
4* - Can call and request from 60-10 days in advance
5* - Automatic upgrade at 60 days in advance.

There will only be 2,000 5* Platinum Elite cards issued. When they're gone, they're supposedly gone. If you travel and use the Starwood hotels, the Platinum perks are a nice benefit. Supposedly get upgraded to top floors of the hotels. Late check out, automatic unit upgrades and personal concierge are nice, but like SPG points, have to weigh whether those have personal value or not.
Christy



Christy,

Thank you for clarifying the information about the upgrade requests.

The Platinum perks are nice benefits, especially if you travel a lot. I've been platinum for a few years now (because of a lot of business travel), and it's really nice to always get upgraded (Club level, suites, preferred view rooms, etc.) when checking it at any Starwood property. Being upgraded has a lot of weight, especially when traveling with the kids - that's when you can use some extra room in the hotel.

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Go2curves

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From: Stockton, CA, USA
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posted 05-11-2005 18:51     Click Here to See the Profile for Go2curves   Click Here to Email Go2curves     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote Post A Reply
Pedro, the upgrades really work for Platinum level? If I book a regular room, will I automatically get upgraded to suite or concierge level? I'm glad to hear you've gotten some benefits. I'm always skeptical of these things.
Christy

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Pedro

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From: Merritt Island, Florida. Own at Westin Mission Hills, Westin Kaanapali, Lakeside Terrace
Registered: Aug 2004

posted 05-12-2005 15:33     Click Here to See the Profile for Pedro   Click Here to Email Pedro     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote Post A Reply
quote:
Originally posted by Go2curves:
Pedro, the upgrades really work for Platinum level? If I book a regular room, will I automatically get upgraded to suite or concierge level? I'm glad to hear you've gotten some benefits. I'm always skeptical of these things.
Christy


Christy,
Yes, the upgrades really work! You automatically get upgraded at check in - always to club level (if there is a concierge/club level in the hotel), and often to suites (unless they are all booked). We've had very (and I mean very) nice upgrades over the last few years, both within the U.S. and internationally. I can't start telling you the upgrades we've got because it would sound like I'm bragging

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Go2curves

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posted 05-13-2005 09:42     Click Here to See the Profile for Go2curves   Click Here to Email Go2curves     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote Post A Reply
Thanks, Pedro!
Christy

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