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ann824 TUG Member Posts: 24 From: Abilene, Tx. USA Registered: Aug 2002	posted 05-16-2005 11:16 I received a promotion in the mail for 5 nights at the Sheraton Kauai, $100 gift certificate and $185 towards a car rental for $689. Did not state that we had to attend a timeshare presentation. Is starwood building a timeshare on Kauai? Are there usually lots of dates available for these promotions. I don't want to buy and then have a hard time getting the dates I need. IP: Logged
dbmMayer TUG Member Posts: 2254 From: Northern CA Owner: Westin Ka'anapali & Sheraton Desert Oasis Registered: Jul 2003	posted 05-16-2005 12:23 Yes - Starwood is building a TS on Kauai, but they haven't broken ground yet. At this point, I would think there would be a lot of dates available, because they must have just started selling the property. Interesting that they are finally selling - must mean everything is a "go." We got the same pkg. for the Starwood TS on Maui and thought it was a great deal. When you arrive, they will probably offer you another $100 GC to attend the timeshare presentation. I would like to suggest that you go to www.spg.com and apply for the free Starwood Preferred Guest card. When we went to Maui on the same pkg., they gave us a lower floor parking lot view room (standard for the TS pkgs.) but because we had an SPG card, we got a free upgrade to a 7th floor golf course view. ------------------ Denise [This message has been edited by dbmMayer (edited 05-16-2005).] IP: Logged
Go2curves TUG Member Posts: 169 From: Stockton, CA, USA Registered: Apr 2004	posted 05-16-2005 13:34 From what I was told @ Kierland last week, there's also plans to convert the Sheraton, or at least part of it, to t/s units. That would give them a presence in both Poipu and Princeville. I was also told that Cancun is in the works and then overseas in Scottland. Those are supposedly the next 4 properties that will be going. Christy IP: Logged
sfbenning TUG Member Posts: 142 From: San Francisco, CA USA. Own : Westin Ka'anapali, Sea Ranch CA Registered: May 2003	posted 05-16-2005 14:16 It is my understanding that availability is very compressed during the high demand months, so if you know when you would like to go, you should book immediately. Currently they are selling MAUI at the Princeville in Kauai (I don't know abt the Sheraton), so it's not necessarily the case that they are ready to sell any Kauai locations yet. They may be ready by the time you get there, OR they may be selling the new Maui location. ------------------ Shelley [This message has been edited by sfbenning (edited 05-16-2005).] IP: Logged
dbmMayer TUG Member Posts: 2254 From: Northern CA Owner: Westin Ka'anapali & Sheraton Desert Oasis Registered: Jul 2003	posted 05-16-2005 16:50 quote: Originally posted by sfbenning: Currently they are selling MAUI at the Princeville in Kauai (I don't know abt the Sheraton), so it's not necessarily the case that they are ready to sell any Kauai locations yet. They may be ready by the time you get there, OR they may be selling the new Maui location. Why would they send someone to Kauai, if they wanted to sell them a TS on Maui? It will be interesting to find out what's going on here. ------------------ Denise IP: Logged
sfbenning TUG Member Posts: 142 From: San Francisco, CA USA. Own : Westin Ka'anapali, Sea Ranch CA Registered: May 2003	posted 05-16-2005 17:42 Starwood is selling Maui from every Starwood location on the Hawaiian islands. I have some acquaintances that actually purchased Maui at the Princeville..... It's going well at all locations from what I hear, and that is one reason why the current Maui development is almost sold out. Initially it was supposed to sell for years longer. But that is why Starwoood has to get the other Maui property and Kauai going....... they are running out of product! ------------------ Shelley IP: Logged
dbmMayer TUG Member Posts: 2254 From: Northern CA Owner: Westin Ka'anapali & Sheraton Desert Oasis Registered: Jul 2003	posted 05-16-2005 18:29 I knew they were selling the Maui resort from the other islands, but I didn't realize they were sending people on TS promotion trips to other islands - if you are selling Maui, why not send them to Maui? ------------------ Denise IP: Logged
ann824 TUG Member Posts: 24 From: Abilene, Tx. USA Registered: Aug 2002	posted 05-17-2005 18:36 They stated that I had 15 days to accept the Sheraton Kauai offer. Has anyone tried to redeem this offer past the 15 day limit. Also, they state that they give you $185 toward a rental car. Is this a good deal? Do you reserve your car and they pay for $185 of the cost. It sounds like you also pay a $25 resort fee. Are there any other charges. Sounds like if you cancel that you lose your money. I wonder if they would extend the 12 month time period if you needed to reschedule. We received a sheraton Maui offer last year. They must be ready to start something in Kauai. I can't imagine that they would send us to Kauai to sell us Maui. We own a Marriott resort, and I have been interested in learning more about Starwood. I have had good luck splitting my two bedroom lockoff with Marriott every year and usually getting 2 (two bedroom units) at high quality Marriotts. I also got an AC this year. So I will get three weeks for my one week. I'm just not sure that I will be able to do that with Starwood. I would appreciate any feedback from owners that own both Marriott and Starwood that can compare the two. I like being able to split units and trade through interval. I'm just not sure how much availability there is for starwood units from Interval and if there is much priority for starwood owners. I think I will ask them about this when we go to the presentation. It will be interesting to see what they will have to say. IP: Logged
ZCar TUG Member Posts: 653 From: Yorba Linda, CA USA Registered: May 2003	posted 05-18-2005 15:49 If it's of interest, here's what I found in an ad, Kauai Garden Isle newspaper, early May. Starwood ... "... is actively recruiting for the following positions at our new Starwood Vacations Hawaii Gallery on Kauai: Marketing Administration (Phone etiquette Administration experience) and Marketing Representatives, (Sales skills, excellent communication, etc.)." This should offer some answer to above posts, as it certainly appears as if Sheraton is doing something on Kauai.. IP: Logged
nikki33866 TUG Member Posts: 105 From: Los Angeles Registered: Dec 2004	posted 05-19-2005 07:34 Anyone have any ideas on how I can get the offer? I would love to visit Kauai on a deal like that. ------------------ Nicole IP: Logged
sfbenning TUG Member Posts: 142 From: San Francisco, CA USA. Own : Westin Ka'anapali, Sea Ranch CA Registered: May 2003	posted 05-19-2005 10:12 It's invitation only, and I can't tell if you own at Starwood from your profile information..... but if you don't own there I think that any owner can turn in your name to Starwood for the vacation offers, and they can tell Starwood which place you are interested in buying in. If you want me to recommend you, please provide an email address and I can contact you directly. ------------------ Shelley [This message has been edited by sfbenning (edited 05-19-2005).] IP: Logged
Harriett Harper TUG Member Posts: 100 From: Sacramento, CA, Suites at Fisherman's Wharf, San Francisco; Hyatt Highlands Inn, Carmel, CA; Val Chatelle III, Frisco, CO; Blue Bay Getaway, Cancun Registered: Jun 2002	posted 05-19-2005 23:22 Starwood may be doing "cold calls," as we received the $649 deal for a studio villa, $100 resort credit and $185 towards a rental car at the Westin Ka'anapali. From the brochure, it looks like a gorgeous resort! It just showed up in the mail the other day, and I do not know anyone who owns there. We receive invitations for Marriott stays because my brother owns a few Marriott weeks and keeps submitting my name. It's an attractive offer, but I am tired of timeshare presentations no matter how low key they are. Ellen IP: Logged
sfbenning TUG Member Posts: 142 From: San Francisco, CA USA. Own : Westin Ka'anapali, Sea Ranch CA Registered: May 2003	posted 05-20-2005 08:15 What I mean by invitation only is that Starwood must send you the invitation (either by owner recommendation or data mining techniques, or whatever) you can't just call the number and volunteer for the offer. They are very strict about it. And for the most part, people who get the offer are fairly qualified for it, i.e. own their homes, have the income necessary to finance a purchase, etc. You don't have to attend the presentation to take advantage of the offer. Most people do, but it's a low pressure invite and you can simply not take them up on it. There is no "requirement" that you attend. There has been a bit of discussion on this point at flyertalk's Starwood boards if you are curious about how these vacation offers play out from the perspective of people who don't own at Starwood, but travel to their hotels extensively on business, etc. ------------------ Shelley [This message has been edited by sfbenning (edited 05-20-2005).] [This message has been edited by sfbenning (edited 05-20-2005).] [This message has been edited by sfbenning (edited 05-20-2005).] IP: Logged
nikki33866 TUG Member Posts: 105 From: Los Angeles Registered: Dec 2004	posted 05-20-2005 09:37 Thanks for the info Shelley. I do own a week at Vistana Villages, so I will wait for an offer. ------------------ Nicole IP: Logged
Sierrajean TUG Member Posts: 1 From: Reno, NV Registered: May 2005	posted 05-21-2005 15:52 No one seemed to answer the other question - and I'm also interested in knowing TUG users opinions of Marriott vs. Starwood. I'm getting ready to by a Marriott resale and want to make sure I'm getting the best options for my $. "We own a Marriott resort, and I have been interested in learning more about Starwood. I have had good luck splitting my two bedroom lockoff with Marriott every year and usually getting 2 (two bedroom units) at high quality Marriotts. I also got an AC this year. So I will get three weeks for my one week. I'm just not sure that I will be able to do that with Starwood. I would appreciate any feedback from owners that own both Marriott and Starwood that can compare the two. I like being able to split units and trade through interval. I'm just not sure how much availability there is for starwood units from Interval and if there is much priority for starwood owners. I think I will ask them about this when we go to the presentation. It will be interesting to see what they will have to say." IP: Logged
dbmMayer TUG Member Posts: 2254 From: Northern CA Owner: Westin Ka'anapali & Sheraton Desert Oasis Registered: Jul 2003	posted 05-21-2005 17:07 quote: Originally posted by Sierrajean: No one seemed to answer the other question - and I'm also interested in knowing TUG users opinions of Marriott vs. Starwood. I'm getting ready to by a Marriott resale and want to make sure I'm getting the best options for my $. "We own a Marriott resort, and I have been interested in learning more about Starwood. I have had good luck splitting my two bedroom lockoff with Marriott every year and usually getting 2 (two bedroom units) at high quality Marriotts. I also got an AC this year. So I will get three weeks for my one week. I'm just not sure that I will be able to do that with Starwood. I would appreciate any feedback from owners that own both Marriott and Starwood that can compare the two. I like being able to split units and trade through interval. I'm just not sure how much availability there is for starwood units from Interval and if there is much priority for starwood owners. I think I will ask them about this when we go to the presentation. It will be interesting to see what they will have to say." Since Starwood has their own exchange system, an owner wishing to exchange for a Starwood timeshare would be much more likely to exchange with Starwood, than with II. ------------------ Denise IP: Logged
theunitrep TUG Member Posts: 160 From: Vista, CA Own at: Westin Ka`anapali, Sheraton Mountain Vista and Parkway International Registered: Feb 2004	posted 05-21-2005 18:56 quote: Originally posted by Sierrajean: ...So I will get three weeks for my one week. I'm just not sure that I will be able to do that with Starwood. I would appreciate any feedback from owners that own both Marriott and Starwood that can compare the two." My wife and I used to own a 2-bedroom lock-off at Marriott's Maui Ocean Club. We sold that and purchased a 2-bedroom lock-off at Westin Ka`anapali Ocean Resort Villas. We like the Starwood system over the one Marriott uses primarily because of its flexibility. Specifically: 1. With Starwood, there is no charge to split the lock-off. Marriott charges $75. 2. With Starwood, a week can be turned into 21+ days of vacation if you are willing to travel during off peak times and downsize the unit you are requesting. At Marriott, a week is a week (excluding when you split a lock-off). For example, our family is traveling to WKORV and spending 13-days in a one bedroom premium villa (July 03-16th). With Marriott we we able to spend one week in a studio and one week in a one-bedroom after paying $75 to split the unit. Even though we were in paradise for 14 days, the seven we spent in the studio were "trying." 3. Starwood owners do not have to deal with an external exchange company as long as they stay within the Starwood Vacation Network. By using SVN, no exchange fees are charged. At Marriott, owners pay a $79 exchange fee. 4. All Starwood owners can reserve at there home resort starting 12-months prior to travel. At Marriott, if an owner has multiple weeks (not having to be at the same resort), they get to reserve 13-months in advance. This causes some owners to be "locked out" of prime travel seasons. There may be more reasons why I prefer Starwood over Marriott, but those are the ones that come immediately to mind. Hope this helps, Jerry [This message has been edited by theunitrep (edited 05-21-2005).] IP: Logged
Cathyb TUG Member Posts: 1463 From: Carlsbad, CA, USA Carlsbad Inn, Trendwest , Marriott DSV & Newp, Westin MissionHills, Whaler/Maui & PonoKai/Kauai Registered: Dec 2000	posted 05-22-2005 06:01 We own two Marriotts and one Starwood. We use each for different reasons. Marriott's system is less complicated IMHO. Their program offers more timeshare locations and has the 24 day preference over other II members for exchanging to other Marriott timeshares. Starwood, on the other hand, has more hotel locations worldwide (where we travel); has more exclusive resorts like Harborside and St. John -- but we have found as more Starwood timeshares open up, getting Starwood exchanges have become much more difficult. IP: Logged
jl TUG Member Posts: 43 From: Paris, France Owner : Playa Andaluza (2 weeks gold) Estepona, Spain Registered: Dec 2003	posted 05-22-2005 06:01 Thank you Jerry for your reply. I am also considering either Starwood or Hilton because of the flexibility. We always travel off season and usually request a studio or 1 bedroom. We use our 2 bedroom Marriott for family holidays in Spain. I believe that Starwood also won many Freddy awards including customer service - is that correct? IP: Logged
ann824 TUG Member Posts: 24 From: Abilene, Tx. USA Registered: Aug 2002	posted 05-22-2005 13:19 Thank you for your answers. I have been trying to research the Starwood system and I still can't decide which one looks better for our needs. I think we will take the promo offer and see what we think after going to a presentation. Another interesting point. When you receive these invitations, they specify that you must call within 15 days. We received an invitation for Maui a year ago and just about a week ago, the one for Kauai. When I called to check on the Kauai promotion, I accidently used the Maui invitation we got a year ago. They still had us in the system and said we could still use it. So, I guess you have alot more time to decide than they lead you to believe. IP: Logged

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