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Topic: Hilton & Cub Intrawest... Somethings up!
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OnMedic TUG MemberPosts: 16 From: Kitchener, ON; Owner: HGVC - Orlando Registered: May 2005
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posted 05-27-2005 16:52
Hey Gang,Something is coming down the pipes between HGVC and Intrawest! Anyone else heard aything? I did the Intrawest presentation today, and when I mention that we are Hilton owners, the gates accidentally opened up! Our sales person jumped right in and said they just receved a big hilton presentation in the last week, and there is something coming between Hilton and Club Intrawest. She then said she isn't supposed to say anything and started to back-track. All of a suden she did't "really know much" at this point because it was just announced internally. May it be a reciprical agrement similar to the one held between Club Intrawest and DIsney? She did mention thy want to expand a grow faster then membership allows and they are looking at partners (Hilton) to help with th initiative. Does anyone else here have any idea of wat Alliance, Partnership, agreements are on the way? P.S. It looks like a couple of more unique CI locations are on the way! Cheers! [This message has been edited by OnMedic (edited 05-27-2005).] IP: Logged |
ricoba TUG MemberPosts: 916 From: Rancho Dominguez, CA Registered: Jan 2003
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posted 05-27-2005 22:33
This rumor has been talked of on and off for at least the past year on TUG. I believe it may have started on The Timeshare Beat.It would be GREAT if something ever comes from this...as I have stated before Club Intrawest would be a great club for our family due to their locations, (Vancouver & Palm Springs in particular). But I am not going to hold my breath.... Rick IP: Logged |
OnMedic TUG MemberPosts: 16 From: Kitchener, ON; Owner: HGVC - Orlando Registered: May 2005
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posted 05-28-2005 04:57
Well, it came from Intrawest this time... and the sales person said they received a presentation from mnagement on what's coming... so lets keep our fingers crossed!Anyone else here ge a sniff of anything betwen HGVC & CI? IP: Logged |
dougp26364 TUG MemberPosts: 2174 From: Wichita KS owner: Polo Towers/ The Villas at Polo Towers/ Marriot's Ocean Point/Marriott's Grand Chateau/ HGVC LVStrip/ Grand Regency Branson, MO Registered: Jan 2001
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posted 05-28-2005 11:44
Well, maybe this is how Hilton plans to double it's offerings to members. Not by actually building somethng but by partnering up with another developer. Hilton seem to have a history of only building in 3 locations but offering affiliate resorts to cover their short comings.IP: Logged |
Sherry TUG MemberPosts: 127 From: New York State Registered: Dec 2000
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posted 05-28-2005 15:27
Could somebody tell me what Intrawest is. I am not familiar with them. ThanksIP: Logged |
dougp26364 TUG MemberPosts: 2174 From: Wichita KS owner: Polo Towers/ The Villas at Polo Towers/ Marriot's Ocean Point/Marriott's Grand Chateau/ HGVC LVStrip/ Grand Regency Branson, MO Registered: Jan 2001
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posted 05-28-2005 19:42
Do a google search and you'll turn up their home page. I looked at them this morning and I'm not overly impressed with their locations. Mostly in Canada. The only ones I can recall off the top of my head are Vancouver (metropolitan resort), Whistler, and Panorama (a mountain ski resort).A coop or merger would give Hilton a new flavor if you will but not one I'm overly thrilled with nor will I use. For ski buffs that like the Canada ski resorts it could be great. IP: Logged |
ricoba TUG MemberPosts: 916 From: Rancho Dominguez, CA Registered: Jan 2003
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posted 05-28-2005 22:25
Sorry that you don't like the Canadian locations, but it would be kind of funny if they didn't have Canadian locations since they are a large Canadian development corporation! Intrawest has developed some of the top notch mountain resorts in North America, Whistler, being one of the worlds premier destinations. They have also recently begun a renewal of Mammoth Mountain here in California and they are also involved in Squaw Valley. They have a very long and successful record in resort development. Hilton Corporation is already doing some condo-tel partnerships with Intrawest in Whistler & I believe Quebec as well. Their timeshare portion of the business though not a big part of their business has some very beautiful and first class resorts. Here is a link showing their club locations: http://tinyurl.com/9oq4p As I stated earlier, I'm not going to hold my breath to see what happens, but it would be nice to see HGVC grow through partnerships or possible mergers. Because from what I can see from HGVC's plans so far they don't plan on developing too much on their own outside HI, NV & FL. Enjoy! Rick IP: Logged |
Bill4728 TUG MemberPosts: 443 From: Sumner, WA Owner: Club Intrawest, Monarch Grand Vacation & Mountainside Lodge Registered: Apr 2004
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posted 05-29-2005 09:47
Please let it be some kind of partnership like CI has with Disney and not a buy out by Hilton. CI points are selling for more than twice Hilton points (Yes even resale) So a merging of CI & Hilton would be very bad for CI owners like me.For CI owners there would be the benefit of going to Honalulu and the Big Island, Vegas and some of Hilton's international destinations. But Disney already give us a top TS in Orlando so the Hilton locations there wouldn't be a help. We will see. ------------------ Bill IP: Logged |
OnMedic TUG MemberPosts: 16 From: Kitchener, ON; Owner: HGVC - Orlando Registered: May 2005
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posted 05-29-2005 16:39
The link aboive, showing the 9 Club resorts are just that, club resorts. CI owns and operates many more inlcuding Vermont, California, Coloradoa, etc. that are also available to club members.I will agree, CI has some of the nicest, and most uniquely themed, clubs I have seen and stayed at... Yes 5 of the 9 Club resorts are in Canada, but all top notch. Most of the other intrawst owned resorts are in the US. Also, it appears that a few are in the works (nothing signed yet) for the Carribean and possibly Italy... Cheers, Steve IP: Logged |
bsilly TUG MemberPosts: 42 From: Boston, MA USA Registered: Sep 2001
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posted 05-29-2005 17:43
What is the arrangement CI has with DVC? ------------------ BETH IP: Logged |
dougp26364 TUG MemberPosts: 2174 From: Wichita KS owner: Polo Towers/ The Villas at Polo Towers/ Marriot's Ocean Point/Marriott's Grand Chateau/ HGVC LVStrip/ Grand Regency Branson, MO Registered: Jan 2001
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posted 05-29-2005 18:11
quote: Originally posted by Bill4728: Please let it be some kind of partnership like CI has with Disney and not a buy out by Hilton. CI points are selling for more than twice Hilton points (Yes even resale) So a merging of CI & Hilton would be very bad for CI owners like me.
I wouldn't worry. Hilton doesn't seem to want to buy anything and they only want to build in areas proven they can sell in. They have more of an affiliate style of thinking, which often looks good on paper but reality might not be so great for Hilton members. I've seen several posts in the past indicating that if owners of a resort don't pay to join Hilton, then those units aren't available to Hilton members. Some of the FL West coast properties look great but, if they're not very many owners participating then there's not going to be many units available. Looks good on paper but reality can be a disappointing thing. IP: Logged |
OnMedic TUG MemberPosts: 16 From: Kitchener, ON; Owner: HGVC - Orlando Registered: May 2005
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posted 05-30-2005 03:41
The CI and DVC partnership is as follows:Disney is very hard to exchange into!!! CI has a direct agreement with DVC that anytime a DVC owner exchanges into a CI resort, the time at DVC is reserved specific for a CI member to exchange into DVC and not pooled for anyone to use. Cheers! Steve IP: Logged |
OnMedic TUG MemberPosts: 16 From: Kitchener, ON; Owner: HGVC - Orlando Registered: May 2005
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posted 05-31-2005 15:31
If anyone else has heard these rumblings, please let me know. I am keenly interested in CI, but the resales were high and didn;t want to finance... so I paid cash for HGVC.Cheers, Steve IP: Logged |