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Topic: SA ranks well on RCI demand table
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Carolinian TUG MemberPosts: 5833 From: North Carolina Registered: Dec 2000
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posted 04-28-2005 15:14
The European version of the RCI Resort Directory has an interesting table comparing availibility based on supply and demand in the RCI system. It takes 37 resort areas and gives a numerical designator for each month of the year.SA ranks high in demand relative to supply, and indeed outdoes FLorida, the Caribbean, and Cancun, the only western hemisphere resort areas in the table. The numerical designators are: 1 - limited availibility / very highly demanded 2 - less availibility / highly demanded 3 - good availibility 4 - very good availibility SA is given a 1 for five months (Feb., May, June, Sept., Dec.), a 2 for three months (April, Oct., Nov.), and a 3 for four months (Jan., March, July, Aug.). It receives no 4's. In comparision, Florida receives two 1's, three 2's, four 3's, and three 4's. The Caribbean receives three 1's, four 2's, four 3's, and one 4. Cancun receives two 1's, two 2's, five 3's, and three 4's. IP: Logged |
Judy321 TUG MemberPosts: 1048 From: Registered: Mar 2004
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posted 04-28-2005 21:54
Oh, that is *very* interesting, Steve!Is this directory online? Or is it something that only exists in print? I'd love to get my hands on a copy. IP: Logged |
Carolinian TUG MemberPosts: 5833 From: North Carolina Registered: Dec 2000
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posted 04-29-2005 04:59
As far as I know, I have only seen a hard copy.RCI US will send you one for a fee if you do not have a connection in Europe. I just checked and the fee to receive a European version of the RCI Directory is $15 plus shipping. The US office of RCI can arrange to send you one. [This message has been edited by Carolinian (edited 04-29-2005).] IP: Logged |
Carol C TUG MemberPosts: 2902 From: Registered: Dec 2000
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posted 04-30-2005 16:43
Very interesting info...thanks for sharing it, Carolinian!------------------ I met a lot of people in Europe.I even encountered myself. - James Baldwin, American novelist (1924-1987) IP: Logged |
muranojo TUG MemberPosts: 1166 From: ID Registered: Jul 2002
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posted 04-30-2005 23:26
Thanks for the info., Steve. Interesting that I was told I was buying two 'red' weeks and one white week, and--according to this info--the two red weeks are really 'blue' weeks (rating 3), and the white week is indeed a 'white' week (rating 2). I have weeks 3, 30, and 43. For now, it seems they all trade the same, but am I interpreting this right?IP: Logged |
DanM TUG MemberPosts: 268 From: NY; Mittersill wk 52, Mt. Amanzi wk 1,Fox Run wk. 15 Registered: Dec 2000
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posted 05-01-2005 12:30
I think this is a good guide for European demand, but maybe not a perfect guide to real trade value. We have all noticed that almost all SA weeks trade about the same in the RCI U.S. system. I suspect there is a recognition that most SA are better than, say, Orlando. But until the computer systems are merged, I don't even think RCI understands the fine points of particular resorts and regions.For example, I own a peak week 1, in January. According to this European guide there is good availabilty, but December and January are mid summer in SA there is a lot of local demand for certain regions. Bottom line, I think we will see a significant shift in individual resort trade power when they get their computers to talk. In the meantime, I think we can just say that all SAs, all seasons, are slightly above average compared with average U.S. red weeks (except summer beach and ski weeks). IP: Logged |
Carolinian TUG MemberPosts: 5833 From: North Carolina Registered: Dec 2000
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posted 05-01-2005 13:49
Since this table is designed for RCI members to assess what weeks they have the best chance of trading into, basing it on only European demand would not make any sense. To be of any use for its intended purpose, it must be based on supply and demand in the overall RCI system. Realistically, the biggest driver of demand in SA is logically from the South Africans themselves, not Europeans, Americans, or any other foreginers.IP: Logged |
maverick TUG MemberPosts: 949 From: Long Island, NY Registered: Aug 2001
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posted 05-01-2005 15:23
Since my little grass hut is evidently in such demand, it seems that I should have even better trading power.------------------ "In the days of my youth, I was told what it means to be a man, Now I've reached that age, I've tried to do all those things the best I can." Led Zeppelin IP: Logged |
DanM TUG MemberPosts: 268 From: NY; Mittersill wk 52, Mt. Amanzi wk 1,Fox Run wk. 15 Registered: Dec 2000
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posted 05-01-2005 20:44
quote: Originally posted by Carolinian: Since this table is designed for RCI members to assess what weeks they have the best chance of trading into, basing it on only European demand would not make any sense. To be of any use for its intended purpose, it must be based on supply and demand in the overall RCI system. Realistically, the biggest driver of demand in SA is logically from the South Africans themselves, not Europeans, Americans, or any other foreginers.
Well, if the biggest driver of demand is South Africans (and I agree) then the European availability chart is close, but not that precise. Check out http://www.crisa.co.za/default.php It is the largest vacation club in SA and lists point values for each resort. Scroll down and click on points table. What you will see is that points values peak consistently, with some regional variation, in line with SA school vacation weeks...December, the first two weeks of January, a week or two in September, a week or two around March or April. and the last week of June, first week or so of July. These, not coincidentally, are the fixed peak weeks that you can buy. I have to believe that if the U.S. and S.A. computerized trading systems are ever integrated, we will see better values in those weeks...and that the U.S./European system now just doesn't reflect the SA demand accurately. [This message has been edited by DanM (edited 05-01-2005).] IP: Logged |
Joe M TUG MemberPosts: 1228 From: Crystal Lake, IL Registered: Dec 2000
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posted 05-02-2005 10:31
RCI South Africa publishes an availability grid on its website.SA Avaliability Grid I did not study it carefully but a quick read indicated there is not much difference from month to month. I am not sure how RCI Europe came up with its numbers. I do note a significant difference from region to region. Some always have good availability while others never have good availability. If this RCI chart is accurate, I would guess where you want to go in SA is a bigger factor than when you want to go. Edited to add: I just noticed there is a link below the chart which links to a grid for International Exchange Availability. It displays a similar chart for US, Mexico and Europe. [This message has been edited by Joe M (edited 05-02-2005).] IP: Logged |
Judy321 TUG MemberPosts: 1048 From: Registered: Mar 2004
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posted 05-03-2005 22:56
quote: Originally posted by Carolinian: I just checked and the fee to receive a European version of the RCI Directory is $15 plus shipping. The US office of RCI can arrange to send you one.
Well, I'm not sure that I'd trust RCI to send it, since I had to request my original resort directory four times! And then four copies showed up on the same day -- 6 months after I first asked. Plus, my directory for this year has never been arrived. But, I appreciate the information from the European directory that you posted here, Steve!
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skimble TUG MemberPosts: 574 From: Murrieta, Ca, USA Registered: Jul 2002
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posted 05-07-2005 07:27
Wow.... my blue week is taking on shades of purple------------------ Owner at San Clemente Cove, Dikhololo, Silversands Durban, Seaviews, and Crown Point. IP: Logged |
reddiablosv TUG MemberPosts: 254 From: Riverside, CA. USA Registered: Oct 2003
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posted 05-08-2005 09:10
My week #7 at Kruger Park is listed as a white week by my resort, but appears as category #1 week by RCI Europe. It receives fewer points for deposit from RCI USA than a less demanded Red week. It is hard to make sense of the conflicting data. I have always viewed the resort as just an inexpensive way to get a few more points, perhaps I should try using it in the weeks system to see if its trade power is better than predicted by the white status of the week. Does any of this data suggest that SA resorts have different trade power for European resorts than USA resorts? My white week might be a good trader when searching for European resorts if it is high demand. How does RCI USA interface with RCI Europe when doing searches for Europe with an RCI account? Does anyone have any knowledge or experience in doing searches for Europe with SA weeks?Ben IP: Logged | |