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SINGAMEN
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posted 06-13-2001 11:47           
If you were considering buying a 1 week TS where would you buy?
Looking for trading/exchanging power and bang for the buck. Location and size are open. What are the top ten in your humble opinion?


Depositing my thnx advance


Radman

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posted 06-13-2001 11:57     Click Here to See the Profile for Radman   Click Here to Email Radman     
Well, I think the Marriotts have the overall trade power to beat anyone, but that is II. For RCI, I would bank on Myrtle Beach or NC Outer Banks Summer weeks. Hawaii carries lots of power, but also high maintenance fees. In Myrtle Beach, standard resorts with summer weeks can carry a lot of trade power within RCI.

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JLB

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posted 06-13-2001 12:12     Click Here to See the Profile for JLB   Click Here to Email JLB     
South Seas Plantation on Captiva Island

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Kal

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posted 06-13-2001 12:44     Click Here to See the Profile for Kal   Click Here to Email Kal     
These days the power resorts are those developed by the big guys...Marriott, Hyatt, Disney, Hilton, etc. With these you can get top priority for internal trading at super resorts located in various worldwide prime locations. Obviously you can trade thru RCI and II, but that is really a crap shoot with all sorts of unknowns and politics working. Buy a good sized unit in a good season to solidify your options.

Buy on RESALE for the best bang for the $$$.

tiger

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posted 06-13-2001 13:19     Click Here to See the Profile for tiger     
Radman or others. What do you consider an acceptable maintenance fee. Some Gold Crowns in Hawaii have fees in the $400-$550 range. You can pick up some of these for $3500-$4500 and get top trading power.


Frank

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posted 06-13-2001 14:13     Click Here to See the Profile for Frank   Click Here to Email Frank     
Hilton Head, Summer, Marriott--hands down.
Frank

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Dave M
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posted 06-13-2001 14:18     Click Here to See the Profile for Dave M   Click Here to Email Dave M     
Ditto


Lisa

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posted 06-13-2001 15:43     Click Here to See the Profile for Lisa   Click Here to Email Lisa     
IMHO, So Calif, Aquamarine Villas summer carries the most bang for the buck. MF are only $280 for TOP trading power. The resort offers a program called "adopt a weeks" where you can purchase for the cost of the mf weeks that owners did not pay their MF. I picked up 2 June weeks and an Easter. You used to be able to purchase this resort cheap, but I think that the prices have been driven up by all the hoopla about this resort.
It outtrades my 2 bed red GC/RID, SA, Hawaii, Whistler, and the MF are a heck of alot cheaper.

Dani, what do you think?

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Knobby0002

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posted 06-13-2001 17:26     Click Here to See the Profile for Knobby0002   Click Here to Email Knobby0002     
I agree with Lisa...So Cal Summer..is as good as it gets in my book...Great value...For TOP TIER trade week...if trading is what you are looking at...I would look real strong at one of these weeks...

PS...I have seen Lisa's account...If she says thats the best.. Then you can bank on it...cause she has tried them all ...LOL

Liz Wolf-Spada

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posted 06-13-2001 17:38     Click Here to See the Profile for Liz Wolf-Spada   Click Here to Email Liz Wolf-Spada     
Lisa, is that "buy" additional units for the cost of MF's?
Liz


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posted 06-13-2001 18:47     Click Here to See the Profile for BL   Click Here to Email BL     
Liz:

Sorry, I'm not Lisa, but since I sold my AV week to Dani (hey, everybody's allowed one newbie mistake, right?), I can answer this question. Yes, once a year a list of unpaid-for weeks is provided to owners. You can then phone in, first come, first serve, plunk down maintenance fee only and the week is yours.

Some of them are dogs, of course, but there are a few gems.

Bev

Dani
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posted 06-13-2001 19:23     Click Here to See the Profile for Dani   Click Here to Email Dani     
Lisa and Bev,

You do know that my timesharing life hasn't been the same since I purchased Aqua don't you ? I completely agree with Lisa..the trade power is tops, the maintenance fees are cheap, and the Adopt-A-Week program can't be beat. In fact, I bet that because of the Adopt-A-Week program the resort will stay in the black for a long time to come. This program is also one of the reasons the maintenance fees are probably so inexpensive.

I should add that just like it was once thought by many that the Blue Whale was the only game in town, Aqua isn't the only gem in So. Cal. Lisa sussed this one out. We are now finding out from other Tuggers that other So. Cal weeks are trading the same way as the Blue Whale and Aqua in the summer. Bev has a Winner's Circle summer studio for example that trades the same..at least on-line ..as Aqua..I tested it myself and did the comparisons. I would also add that a summer Cape Cod week is another week that hard's to beat for trade power.

Bev..now I feel bad!!! Maybe that Winner's Circle week has lightened your burden just a little!! LOL

Dani

[This message has been edited by Dani (edited 06-13-2001).]

TomR

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posted 06-13-2001 19:40     Click Here to See the Profile for TomR   Click Here to Email TomR     
Dani: I am a new owner at Aqua and love its trading power. My initial impression is that it is much stronger than my winter St.Maarten weeks. I am confused though about the "Adopt a Week" program at Aqua. Could you give me a litlle more information on this program and how you select the float week. I assume you buy just a single week in the particular year that the owner failed to pay MF's, and not the unit itself. Thanks for your help (I still owe you for that great heads up on the Marriott Aruba Ocean Club Getaway. Still can't believe I got the week for $249).
Tom


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posted 06-13-2001 19:45     Click Here to See the Profile for BL   Click Here to Email BL     
Dani:

I'm learning to live with the pain - plus we would have never been making arrangements to meet in Seattle this fall if we hadn't done that little bit of business, right? One of the other great perks of TUG - new friends.

Bev

Cathyb

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posted 06-13-2001 19:50     Click Here to See the Profile for Cathyb   Click Here to Email Cathyb     
Dani: Do you know if Tamarack Beach Resort/Carlsbad has the strength of Aqua or other SoCal resorts if it is summer (late July)? I have no way to compare as we traded this year. Also we own Week 39 (late Sep) at Carlsbad Inn, what is your opinion of that strength. Thanks.


tonyg

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posted 06-13-2001 19:51     Click Here to See the Profile for tonyg   Click Here to Email tonyg     
What's hot now, might not be tomorrow. If you asked the question 2 years ago-many would have said "Blue Whale". Things change, spots get hot, spots get cold. Buy somewhere you want to go if it trades well. You may not need the best trader in the world to go where you want. If there's no availability it doesn't matter how strong your trade power is.

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posted 06-13-2001 20:03     Click Here to See the Profile for Dani   Click Here to Email Dani     
Tom- As far as Adopt-A-Weeks, you essentially are buying a single week (not deeded)that can be deposited with RCI, rented, or used for your own personal use. You have to watch the Aqua mailings for these offers (West-Coasters have the advantage). The best Adopt-A-Weeks weeks go fast so you have to act quickly. You will be able to get a week though which can come in handy if you need a reliable spacebanked week. Last year they offered these weeks around November for 2001, and this March for 2002 weeks.

Cathy- I have no clue as to the trade power of Tammarack in the summer or Carlsbad in the fall. If I had to guess, I would say that Carlsbad in the fall is not a good trader..I know that Aqua fall weeks are not great traders. I would think that Tammarck in the summer would be a good to great trader, but I do not know.

Bev- Can't wait

Tony- I agree with you...if I had known what I know now I would have purchased a summer Cape Cod week..It's a place I would want to go to and it trades great.

[This message has been edited by Dani (edited 06-13-2001).]

Lisa

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posted 06-13-2001 20:29     Click Here to See the Profile for Lisa   Click Here to Email Lisa     
Hi Cathy, I know for a fact that summer at Tamarack trades the same as Aquamarine Villas, meybe better, if that is possible:-)

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Frank

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posted 06-13-2001 21:15     Click Here to See the Profile for Frank   Click Here to Email Frank     
Can't argue with success! I guess it will boil down to whether you want to trade with RCI or II--and if you can't decide, buy a dual affiliated resort!
Frank

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Mel Boeh

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posted 06-14-2001 10:52     Click Here to See the Profile for Mel Boeh   Click Here to Email Mel Boeh     
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South Seas Plantation on Captiva Island

I'm with JLB on this one. IMHO, I think anything on Sanibel or Captiva would trade great, especially if it's a November-April week.

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posted 06-15-2001 05:03           
You should really consider RCI POINTS, theres no guessing, you know exactly what you ve got, and how much in points it will cost you to go. This way you are not guessing, when you buy, you know exactly what you are buying (POINTS}.


3kids4me

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posted 06-15-2001 05:55     Click Here to See the Profile for 3kids4me   Click Here to Email 3kids4me     
I would vote for Southern Cal. also, if you are using primarily for trading purposes. Sanibel/Captiva would be a great trade, but with the high purchase prices, and maintenance fees in the $500-600 (or higher) range, it's just not worth it to buy there unless you are going to use it. (I feel the same way about my own resort, where a summer week would pull just about anything, but you just don't buy there to trade your prime week.)

Good luck!

Sharon

Kal

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posted 06-15-2001 07:09     Click Here to See the Profile for Kal   Click Here to Email Kal     
Sharon makes a good point. There are T/S's to trade and T/S's to use. The rule for me on T/S traders is to only buy units that I want to stay at, then if something doesn't work to my satisfcation on a trade, I have the unit to use.

For T/S's to use, I own at Hyatt Key West and even when I receive 2 weeks for every week I trade out, that is still not enough incentive to trade them. That's probably why you rarely if ever see the quality Key West resorts available.

Jwerking

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posted 06-15-2001 12:03     Click Here to See the Profile for Jwerking   Click Here to Email Jwerking     
quote:
Originally posted by Lisa:
Hi Cathy, I know for a fact that summer at Tamarack trades the same as Aquamarine Villas, meybe better, if that is possible:-)

Lisa:

I have considered AV - good price and maint. is low. We should trade RCI acct numbers and test So Cal against summer HH. Have always wondered - but figure that they are somewhat the same when people do the trading test!

Let's do it one day!

Joyce



SINGAMEN
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posted 06-17-2001 08:02           
Well assuming this thread is dying... Thanks to all for your experiential advice.


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