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Topic: Raintree Vacation Club
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dianef
TUG MemberPosts: 297
From: Lake City SD USA
Registered: Dec 2000
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posted 09-03-2003 20:50
    
Where can I buy a Raintree Vacation Club membership? I've been doing searches and haven't come up with any yet. Thanks for all of your expertise!------------------
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snelson
TUG VolunteerPosts: 6520
From: Belly-View, WA. Owner: Embassy Poipu (floating); Winners Circle (Week 52), Raintree Vacation Club; Club Regina
Registered: Dec 2000
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posted 09-03-2003 20:55
Donna - the ones I have seen have most often been listed as Club Regina. You find them when you start investigating or checking listing details. If the listing says the membership will allow you to reserve at places other than the three Club Regina's, it is probably RVC. Similarly, if the indicate it is "gold", "platinum" or one of the other jewels, it is likely a RVC. Due diligence is warranted, though, because the CR/RVC is so confusing that many owners don't know what they own.Extending this to a Whiski Jack property (since you put this in Canada, I guess that is what you are looking for), it would probably be listed as Whiski Jack, but if the ad says you can use it at the Raintree Resorts, it might be a converted WJ. I have no idea how many WJ owners may have joined RVC. Once you get a membership number, you can contact CR member services to find out exactly what type of membership it is. ------------------
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geoand
TUG MemberPosts: 793
From: Bothell, WA, USA
Registered: Apr 2001
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posted 09-03-2003 23:02
This may be stating the obvious, but to have a RVC membership, one must own a property that is within the RVC system. WJ was purchased by Raintree and WJ owners were given the option of buying into RVC for a fee. I would imagine that buying a WJ property for sale now would give you the option of buying into RVC.------------------
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snelson
TUG VolunteerPosts: 6520
From: Belly-View, WA. Owner: Embassy Poipu (floating); Winners Circle (Week 52), Raintree Vacation Club; Club Regina
Registered: Dec 2000
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posted 09-03-2003 23:22
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Originally posted by geoand:
This may be stating the obvious, but to have a RVC membership, one must own a property that is within the RVC system.
Not true. RVC memberships can be purchased directly; they are handled through Club Regina, but what you purchase is an RVC membership. ------------------
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baycam
TUG MemberPosts: 51
From: ewa beach Hawaii
Registered: May 2003
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posted 09-03-2003 23:25
If you own a whiski Jack timeshare you can join RVC for about 1200 USD. That is a one time fee, even if you buy additional timeshare within RVC they are covered under your mebership. IP: Logged |
BL
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From: B.C. Canada
Registered: Dec 2000
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posted 09-03-2003 23:45
I've seen ebay auctions from these folks:
www.timesharewholesalers.com I looked at their website and saw they advertise Raintree Resorts. I'm not recommending them, I've never dealt with them, but just thought it might be a source for you. Bev IP: Logged |
baycam
TUG MemberPosts: 51
From: ewa beach Hawaii
Registered: May 2003
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posted 09-03-2003 23:54
Not sure what your looking for but I noticed on the for sell tug page. A float B week with use rights of week 22-25 and 35-41 for 3300 USD at Whiski Jack whistler creekside. I looked on the Matrix and those weeks will get you a Platinum Membership with RVC if you join for the 1200 US. so for 4500 you could trade in and use all the resorts in RVC. Platinum is not the best but can get you a grand suite in Las Vegas,or all the Mexico resorts. A two bedroom at the Teton lodge in Jackson Hole for a summer month.
Or you could trade for a peak ski week in Whistler of course it will only be a one bedroom. RVC is fun because you can get multiple weeks for your one week in Whistler if you plan ahead and use your Membership to its full advantage.IP: Logged |
geoand
TUG MemberPosts: 793
From: Bothell, WA, USA
Registered: Apr 2001
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posted 09-04-2003 10:09
Steve, that is news to me. Can you provide more info? What would a membership cost thru Club Regina? How does one trade within RVC Oh just remembered to engage the brain. Is buying a RVC membership without a property buying the RCI points system?------------------
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dianef
TUG MemberPosts: 297
From: Lake City SD USA
Registered: Dec 2000
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posted 09-04-2003 10:21
Steve, I also would like to know exactly how to buy just a membership into the RVC. Any websites I can go to or 800 numbers to call? Thanks. ------------------
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snelson
TUG VolunteerPosts: 6520
From: Belly-View, WA. Owner: Embassy Poipu (floating); Winners Circle (Week 52), Raintree Vacation Club; Club Regina
Registered: Dec 2000
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posted 09-04-2003 10:29
It's just like buying a Club Regina membership, except it is a Raintree Vacation Club membership. After you find a seller and work out payment details, the seller faxes a notarized letter to CR saying that they are transferring membership to you. You fax a notarized letter to CR saying that you are accepting the transfer. All fees need to be current to do the transfer. CR charges a $US 60 transfer fee. Abut 15 days later, the membership is transferred (unless you caught in the transfer delay discussed recently re Club Regina).If the membership is a CR membership, you can only reserve at the three CR resorts. If it's a Raintree membership, you can reserve anywhere in the Raintree system there is availability. Right now, we are reserved for Presidents week next year at Isla Mujeres. ------------------
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geoand
TUG MemberPosts: 793
From: Bothell, WA, USA
Registered: Apr 2001
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posted 09-04-2003 10:53
Steve, got a question and yes I may sound as dumb as a thimble. With my RVC membership, I trade my WJ week for week or weeks within RVC properties. Your membership sounds completely different. What did you trade or give up to get your President's week in Mexico?Don't know if I should start a new thread or what, so will mention it here. I have been summoned to a King Co Superior Court trial as a juror. The notice says to report 10/10/03 and the trial is expected to last 22 weeks. I have a week reserved at Cimmaron starting 11/1 for a 1 br unit. Frank at RVC told me today that if I fax the summons to him, they will cancel the weeks without a fee to me. They would also deposit it into RCI for use within the next 2 years and I still would go thru RVC counselors who would transfer me to RCI for working the exchange. This is all very confusing. The bit I really liked was that the week could be cancelled without the $100 fee (cancelling within 60 days). ------------------
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snelson
TUG VolunteerPosts: 6520
From: Belly-View, WA. Owner: Embassy Poipu (floating); Winners Circle (Week 52), Raintree Vacation Club; Club Regina
Registered: Dec 2000
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posted 09-04-2003 11:44
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Originally posted by geoand:
What did you trade or give up to get your President's week in Mexico?
Nothing. I just called up and reserved it as my usage right for 2004. ------------------
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Tori
TUG MemberPosts: 477
From: Texas
Registered: Dec 2000
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posted 09-05-2003 03:54
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Originally posted by geoand:
Steve, got a question and yes I may sound as dumb as a thimble. With my RVC membership, I trade my WJ week for week or weeks within RVC properties. Your membership sounds completely different. What did you trade or give up to get your President's week in Mexico?Don't know if I should start a new thread or what, so will mention it here. I have been summoned to a King Co Superior Court trial as a juror. The notice says to report 10/10/03 and the trial is expected to last 22 weeks. I have a week reserved at Cimmaron starting 11/1 for a 1 br unit. Frank at RVC told me today that if I fax the summons to him, they will cancel the weeks without a fee to me. They would also deposit it into RCI for use within the next 2 years and I still would go thru RVC counselors who would transfer me to RCI for working the exchange. This is all very confusing. The bit I really liked was that the week could be cancelled without the $100 fee (cancelling within 60 days).
If you show the judge you have prepaid vacation plans, usually they will reschedule your jury duty. Have you been summoned as a potential juror or were you actually picked?? If you haven't been picked, talk to the Judge about moving your date. I have never seen a judge deny someone a prepaid vacation. Good luck. IP: Logged |
krisj
TUG MemberPosts: 2112
From: Seattle WA, USA Owner: 6 weeks in Whistler, BC
Registered: Dec 2000
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posted 09-05-2003 09:32
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Originally posted by geoand:
I have been summoned... as a juror... the trial is expected to last 22 weeks.
22 weeks!!?? That sounds like long enough to interfere with SEVERAL vacations. It must be quite a trial... Good luck! I thought our most recent Whiski Jack newsletter talked about yet another program -- not RVC or Club Regina, but something like "Whiski Jack Vacation Club" or... I can't find the info. Does anyone know what that's about? Kris IP: Logged |
geoand
TUG MemberPosts: 793
From: Bothell, WA, USA
Registered: Apr 2001
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posted 09-05-2003 10:43
I have already cancelled my Manhattan Club reservation that started 10-8-03 because I was denied an exemption or reschedule by the group that sent my summons to me. The individual in charge of the summons process said that this case is a high profile case and very few exceptions are allowed. He did know about my vacation stuff before denying. As a side note, I have been told by many that if I act a little crazy, odd or whatever, I will be excused by judge or either of the attorneys handling the case. My DW has told me that I should be ok because I won't have to "act."More info about RVC policy. Counselor called me this morning and said that no need to cancel the November trip now. He said that we can wait until I know for sure if I am selected to sit on the jury. They will cancel under these circumstances until as late as 10-31-03 without the $100 fee. Kris, if memory serves me correctly, I think you once stated that you owned a fractional interest in WJ unit. As I was researching the RVC material I have, I found the following: "Whiski Jack ownders who own fractional interests (1/4, 1/17, 1/10, or 1/8) have automatic membership in RVC, but participation is voluntary." Steve, I sent you email. ------------------
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krisj
TUG MemberPosts: 2112
From: Seattle WA, USA Owner: 6 weeks in Whistler, BC
Registered: Dec 2000
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posted 09-05-2003 14:14
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Originally posted by geoand:
As I was researching the RVC material I have, I found the following: "Whiski Jack ownders who own fractional interests (1/4, 1/17, 1/10, or 1/8) have automatic membership in RVC, but participation is voluntary."
We do have a fractional ownership. This is so interesting -- no one has ever mentioned this to us! I'll have to phone Whiski Jack and see if I can learn more. Thanks!
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geoand
TUG MemberPosts: 793
From: Bothell, WA, USA
Registered: Apr 2001
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posted 09-05-2003 23:21
Kris, if you need a copy of the page from the book I have, I can scan and email to you.------------------
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dianef
TUG MemberPosts: 297
From: Lake City SD USA
Registered: Dec 2000
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posted 09-06-2003 06:48
Ok, so here is what I'm understanding and please correct me if I'm wrong. Here is my plan of attack:
1) I want to find a WhiskiJack resort that is a Platinum week at a good price. So does the "rating" of the resort matter--ie, should I try to buy into a nicer resort or are they all rated "A" or "B" or "C"??? Can someone tell me which ones are the A and B;s If the unit I buy isn't in RVC, I can upgrade to become a member of RVC for $975 US as seen on this website: www.whiskijack.com/rvc/feeschedule/feeschedule.htm
I will make sure it is a platinum week by filling out this form: http://www.whiskijack.com/rvc/matrix/matrixform.htm
If I would buy a floating week, would I just reserve the week that is a Platinum week within my ownership time to trade for a RVC week in their Platinum time? Then within 59 days before check-in, I can upgrade to a larger unit subject to availability. I am also allowed to borrow usage from up to two future calendar years if it's within the 59 days if I would want to book multiple units in the same year by paying those years' maintenance fee according to : http://www.whiskijack.com/rvc/pdfs/Benefitguid.pdf
If I were to get a floating spring week and would happen to reserve "Easter" week within that time frame, it would be one color higher because it is Easter week. And that would change from year to year. Would this be a correct assumption?
If my week is Platinum, I am allowed to trade for TWO weeks, one in gold and one in silver time (but the unit size might be smaller but I might be able to upgrade one notch within 59 days for $29.)It sounds like a great way to vacation to me and I love the idea of NOT having to depend on getting something with RCI! RVC sounds MUCH easier.
Thanks for all of your help! I think I've located about 3 units provided they are A or B resorts that fit into the Platinum category in a range of $2500-3800. I'll wait to hear some answers to my questions from you experts before I take the plunge. Thanks to all of you for helping me! You are the best! ------------------
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dianef
TUG MemberPosts: 297
From: Lake City SD USA
Registered: Dec 2000
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posted 09-06-2003 07:58
Oops, I misread the chart. Easter weeks are only higher in Mexico. They stay the same at the WhiskiJack resorts.
ANother question: What are the "Special Units" listed on the chart and which resorts have them at WJ? It says they sleep l0 so I'm assuming that they have lofts in them?
http://www.whiskijack.com/rvc/calendar/calendar2003.htm Thanks again for taking the time to answer my questions. ------------------
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snelson
TUG VolunteerPosts: 6520
From: Belly-View, WA. Owner: Embassy Poipu (floating); Winners Circle (Week 52), Raintree Vacation Club; Club Regina
Registered: Dec 2000
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posted 09-06-2003 10:39
Diane - I don't know the procedure by which floating weeks are assigned a value in RVC. I suspect that you have to reserve a week, then deposit it to RVC. You then receive an exchange value corresponding to the value of the week you deposited. I'm not sure about this, and you would need to contact someone in sales at Whiski Jack to get a definite answer. Sales could also tell you which properties are assigned to the A, B, and C categories. I suspect the special units are three bedroom with loft. Again, sales could tell which units are identified as "special". If you have any thought of using, you should consider that the newer properties in the Village tend to be smaller; the older Village properties (such as Fitzsimmons) are quite large. Most of them, though, have a lot of nighttime noise. I think the nicest property, if you are a skier, is Powders Edge, but these have limited availabilty. Powders Edge units are huge (almost 2000 sf), have tremendous amenities (in room hot tub and steam room), and a sleeping loft. PE is in a quieter area of the Village at night, and the gondolas are literally right outside your door. For summer time use, I think I would look more for places outside the Village. ------------------
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geoand
TUG MemberPosts: 793
From: Bothell, WA, USA
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posted 09-06-2003 10:42
First of all, the calendar that is posted on the site is not uptodate. Most if not all the WJ units were upgraded for 2004 by 1 value. My t/s is on floor 3 of the Tynndall Stone lodge. It has 2 full br and a loft with couch that converts to bed. However, WJ does not consider it a loft for the ratings (go figure). My t/s was a saphire (week 7 2br b) and for 2004 it was upgraded to emerald. The explanation I got about the a, b, c thing was the number of people it could sleep. In reality, mine could sleep 8 because of the 2 couch beds. But that still does not make sense to me. So, I don't know what the a,b,c, thing is.Don't know about how float weeks work. As to making trades. Easy. Phone call and that has done it. Example, Feb 2003, I used my Feb 2004 unit to trade for 2 weeks in Cimarron 2-2004, and 1 week in Cimarron 11-2003. After this was done, the WJ upgrades occurred and I called RVC and arranged 2 weeks of August 2003 at Westin WJ studio unit. Talked to RVC about my jury thing and was told that I still had a silver week to use for my 2-2004 unit so I had them upgrade 1 of my weeks at cimarron in 2-2004 to the full 2 br unit. I now have 2 weeks of 2 br unit. I have not paid my 2004 maintenance fees and they did not charge an estimate of it either. In fact, I have never been charged est maintenance fees but yet my trades have always involved future week. That is about all the info in my head now. ------------------
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snelson
TUG VolunteerPosts: 6520
From: Belly-View, WA. Owner: Embassy Poipu (floating); Winners Circle (Week 52), Raintree Vacation Club; Club Regina
Registered: Dec 2000
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posted 09-06-2003 11:21
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Originally posted by geoand:
The explanation I got about the a, b, c thing was the number of people it could sleep. In reality, mine could sleep 8 because of the 2 couch beds. But that still does not make sense to me. So, I don't know what the a,b,c, thing is.
The A, B, C thing is the quality of the resorts. A 2-bedroom at Westin is worth more than a 2-bedroom in Creekside. ------------------
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rlm
TUG MemberPosts: 12
From: Whistler, CA
Registered: Dec 2004
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posted 12-28-2004 13:04
Geo, I recently discovered TUG and your mention of RVC membership with WJ fractional ownership. Since your posting is over a year old, do you have any further info on the subject?IP: Logged |
geoand
TUG MemberPosts: 793
From: Bothell, WA, USA
Registered: Apr 2001
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posted 12-28-2004 16:29
Sorry, no I don't.------------------
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rlm
TUG MemberPosts: 12
From: Whistler, CA
Registered: Dec 2004
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posted 12-31-2004 09:40
Geo, do you know where I can find the following statement in writing? On a website or some RVC or Whiski Jack brochure?? "Whiski Jack ownders who own fractional interests (1/4, 1/17, 1/10, or 1/8) have automatic membership in RVC, but participation is voluntary."
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