Vistana Villages does NOT exchange through II, only through RCI ?

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parin TUG Member Posts: 2 From: Newburgh,IN - Owns : Vistana Village 2 BR L/O Registered: Dec 2004	posted 01-06-2005 17:33 I'm a brand new owner of 2 BR LO at Vistana Villages - [bought from the developer at a high price then discovered TUG of course !] Sales rep never mentioned anything at all about II. After reading BBS & Chris N.'s paper on starwood, I inquired with him and also with Starwood service center. They say that Vistana Villages only participates in RCI, not in II - all the other starwood properties participates in BOTH. Do you know more about this ? and the reasons why ? Are there any plans for Vistana Villages to participate in both in near future ? Parin IP: Logged
seenett TUG Member Posts: 931 From: Oregon , USA Owner: BeachPlace; Foxrun; Westin Kierland Registered: Jan 2001	posted 01-06-2005 17:58 Hi - I remember your question to me, but I'm not sure if I gave you an answer or not. I might have been a=waiting on a response from Starwood that I probably never got. I didn't know they were RCI exclusively - it sounds like they are. However, all other Starwoods do not trade through both. Starwood came into being by purchasing Vistana resorts, which had several existing properties. At the time, they all traded only with RCI. The newer "built by Starwood" resorts all only trade with II. Some of the older properties now have a dual affiliation (St. John, most recently Desert Oasis) with both RCI and II. Why VV has not dual affiliated, I do not know. Who ever controls the HOA (Starwood or the owners, depending on how much inventory has been sold) can decide to dual affiliate. ------------------ Chris IP: Logged
dbmMayer TUG Member Posts: 1955 From: Northern CA Owner: Westin Ka'anapali & Sheraton Desert Oasis Registered: Jul 2003	posted 01-06-2005 20:26 You know that you can also trade through one of the independent exchange companies, right? There is a list of them on the advice page. Also, a TUG member has started a timeshare exchange club, for private exchanges between Starwood members, that looks interesting - http://www.tug1.net/tugbbs1/Forum6/HTML/001369.html ------------------ Denise [This message has been edited by dbmMayer (edited 01-06-2005).] IP: Logged
rfb813 TUG Member Posts: 208 From: Valrico, FL, USA Registered: Jul 2003	posted 01-07-2005 06:03 It is my understanding the if you are a member of SVN you trade with II and a membership is included in your annual fee. To my knowledge the original Vistana resort trades through either RCI (either RCI Weeks or Points)or II but Vistana Villages, the newer SVN resort, through II exclusivly. ------------------ SBC II, Shell Island Beach Club, Marriott Mountainside, Marriott Grand Vista, Topsider I, Freeport Resort and Club, HGVC at Las Vegas Hilton, Vistana Resort IP: Logged
dlpearson TUG Member Posts: 998 From: Marriott BeachPlace Towers, Marriott Monarch, 7 Mile Beach Club, Vistana Villages Registered: Mar 2001	posted 01-07-2005 06:28 The OP (original poster) is correct. Vistana Villages does NOT trade through II at all--only RCI. I discovered this about a year ago while searching for a resale unit. Seems totally contrary to Starwood's practices with its newer properties (which are mostly II exclusive). The much older Vistana Resort is dual affiliated, but the brand new (well, 4 years old) Vistana Villages is RCI only. I couldn't get an explanation or direction of a change from anyone at the property....... Edited to add: look in the II directory--you won't find Vistana Villages anywhere(although you will find Sheraton Vistana Resort), plus I've confirmed with II agents on the phone--no go. [This message has been edited by dlpearson (edited 01-07-2005).] IP: Logged
parin TUG Member Posts: 2 From: Newburgh,IN - Owns : Vistana Village 2 BR L/O Registered: Dec 2004	posted 01-07-2005 14:04 Thank you all very much for your replies. Denise ~ I do plan to send my info. for the starwood private exchange database. Thanks. Chris ~ I made a slight mistake in my original e mail. I had never asked this question to you, I asked it to the developer..... sorry for the confusion IP: Logged
PA TUG Member Posts: 3731 From: San Antonio, TX 78258 Registered: Mar 2002	posted 01-07-2005 17:43 Why would you trade through either? Isn't the point of being in SVN so you can trade for other SVN properties? All you have to do is post on the TUG direct exchange board and you can work an exchange for any property you want by offering an SVN property in return, I would think. IP: Logged
dbmMayer TUG Member Posts: 1955 From: Northern CA Owner: Westin Ka'anapali & Sheraton Desert Oasis Registered: Jul 2003	posted 01-07-2005 21:21 quote: Originally posted by PA: Why would you trade through either? Isn't the point of being in SVN so you can trade for other SVN properties? That's the theory, but in reality, there is so much demand for Ka'anapali, St. John, and Harborside, that they are very difficult to get into. Also, Starwood only has about 12 properties in the group right now, and there are lots of other places in the world to go. ------------------ Denise IP: Logged
BocaBum99 TUG Member Posts: 1474 From: Registered: Jul 2004	posted 01-08-2005 09:51 I was just there a little over a month ago. They told me that SVV has an exclusive arrangement with RCI for a couple of more years. I think they will dual affiliate once that exclusivity contract expires. IP: Logged
bigbillf TUG Member Posts: 80 From: Wallingford, PA USA Registered: Aug 2003	posted 01-12-2005 17:02 I sent SVN an e mail asking that same question. Their response was that they verified that Vistana Villages is only affiliated with RCI, and would not say one way or another on whether they had near intentions to allow owners to exchange through II. Looks to me (IMHO) that in 3 - 4 years would be an ideal time to buy V. Villages resale. Just about the time the re-sale prices will be coming down, and able to exchange through both SVN and II. IP: Logged
BocaBum99 TUG Member Posts: 1474 From: Registered: Jul 2004	posted 01-13-2005 17:20 quote: Originally posted by bigbillf: I sent SVN an e mail asking that same question. Their response was that they verified that Vistana Villages is only affiliated with RCI, and would not say one way or another on whether they had near intentions to allow owners to exchange through II. Looks to me (IMHO) that in 3 - 4 years would be an ideal time to buy V. Villages resale. Just about the time the re-sale prices will be coming down, and able to exchange through both SVN and II. I agree with your assessment. IP: Logged
sfwilshire TUG Member Posts: 2156 From: Clinton TN Registered: Jan 2003	posted 01-14-2005 09:24 quote: Originally posted by dlpearson: The much older Vistana Resort is dual affiliated, but the brand new (well, 4 years old) Vistana Villages is RCI only. I have the worst memory, buy I sort of recall when Sheraton Vistana became dual-affiliated. I don't recall ever being ask to vote on it, but I do recall that each HOA made the decision independently and I think some dual-affiliated while others did not. Sheila IP: Logged
brergo TUG Member Posts: 27 From: New City, NY, United States Registered: Nov 2004	posted 01-16-2005 18:48 Spoke with a rep from Vistana Villages last week who told me "unofficially" that their contract with RCI is up next year and they will likely be switching to II. ------------------ Brian Not an owner yet, just doing my homework. IP: Logged

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