posted 03-26-2005 16:49               

I heard it is the latest, and greatest, and will cure all ills.

I believe for $2995 you can get any points program converted to RCI Weeks.

posted 03-26-2005 18:40            

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Originally posted by eipheltower:
I am absolutely unhappy. . . .

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I seem to recall reading that you wanted to sell your HGVC -- did you manage to do that? I am just curious, since you have been very unhappy with your HGVC for quite a while now. If I were unhappy with any of my timeshares I'd list the week on eBay or elsewhere right away and get rid of the headache.

And I am not saying this because I think you ought not give your viewpoint on HGVC here -- I think it is good for HGVC-newbies to hear from owners who are happy and owners who are unhappy so they can assess whether the system would work for them. So share your unhappy experience, but I just don't understand why you have to accuse other happy owners (of which I am one) of being Hilton agents or insinuate that TUGgers who praise HGVC must do so because they are being paid by Hilton? No one is saying HGVC is perfect; the fact is every timeshare system has some flaws, even DVC. Is your unhappy view the only valid and "unbiased" view? And why would you continue to tell people that recent ROFR comments are all lies just because HGVC decided to pass on your week (how long ago)? Basically it sounds like you think you are the only person who tells the truth on TUG. If that is not the case, then make your statements about your own experiences and let them stand for themselves; and please allow others to share their positive experiences without calling or suggesting they are liers.

posted 03-26-2005 21:02               

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Originally posted by liubruin:
I seem to recall reading that you wanted to sell your HGVC -- did you manage to do that? I am just curious, since you have been very unhappy with your HGVC for quite a while now. If I were unhappy with any of my timeshares I'd list the week on eBay or elsewhere right away and get rid of the headache.

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I remember that too.. You know what Essie? I will save you the time of trying to get rid of your 7000 points. I will give you the maximum that you think it's worth. $10,000

How many people are as lucky as you.. Who else buys a timeshare is totally unhappy and can sell it and make $$?

I'll be awaiting your answer.

Dave

posted 03-27-2005 03:00               

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Originally posted by liubruin:
I seem to recall reading that you wanted to sell your HGVC -- did you manage to do that? I am just curious, since you have been very unhappy with your HGVC for quite a while now. If I were unhappy with any of my timeshares I'd list the week on eBay or elsewhere right away and get rid of the headache.

And I am not saying this because I think you ought not give your viewpoint on HGVC here -- I think it is good for HGVC-newbies to hear from owners who are happy and owners who are unhappy so they can assess whether the system would work for them. So share your unhappy experience, but I just don't understand why you have to accuse other happy owners (of which I am one) of being Hilton agents or insinuate that TUGgers who praise HGVC must do so because they are being paid by Hilton? No one is saying HGVC is perfect; the fact is every timeshare system has some flaws, even DVC. Is your unhappy view the only valid and "unbiased" view? And why would you continue to tell people that recent ROFR comments are all lies just because HGVC decided to pass on your week (how long ago)? Basically it sounds like you think you are the only person who tells the truth on TUG. If that is not the case, then make your statements about your own experiences and let them stand for themselves; and please allow others to share their positive experiences without calling or suggesting they are liers.

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Well, I expressed my opinion about HGVC which happens to be negative. What is your problem with that; why do you care? If you do not like my comments about HGVC, just ignore me and go on with your life (and HGVC). HGVC is so wonderful to you and you should be happy; why are you concerened about my comments; just be happy and invest your time better like buying another HGVC. I know what is bothering you. You have made an investment, or you think so, in buying HGVC timeshare and you want your investment to grow in value. My negative comments are working against that. I know that. But truth is truth. I simply don't care whether HGVC doing ROFR. i just pointed out that a 7000 points HGVC is worth actually below $9K. In comparison with Marriott, Sheraton, WM etc. Like all of us, we bought it and then discovered all of the problems associated with HGVC. I think people should find out from TUG all the good and bad about HGVC and then pay $12000 or more for HGVC 7000 points. At least, they were informed!! I was not. I did not know that RCI exchanges are difficult with HGVC; I need to have a friend in the HGVC system to get me the trade I want. If you do not like my comments, TOO BAD. My comments are not for you anyway! So get a life!!

P.S. The reason I spend my valuable time here is that many of these Tuggers like Callihockey, you and others placing thousands of posts continually praising HGVC. With ~10 minutes per posts, these people are spending 100s of hours per year supporting HGVC, someone needs to present another viewpoint.

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Essie R.

posted 03-27-2005 07:29            

Are you practicing for April Fools Day or do you really still believe the world is flat? From my family's experience and those of the majority of other posters in TUG, the overwhelming consensus seems to be that HGVC is a wonderful program to be involved with because it has quality resorts in great locations, it's flexible to use, it just takes one phone call to do business, very friendly reservation agents, you can use your points for a variety of other types of travel experiences, members get discounts at local attractions, you can do hotel stays, they have a company that helps them hold their value, you can break you stay into a variety of days, MF's are very reasonable, you are not locked into one type of unit, you can do RCI trades, and a host of other positve reasons that I can not mention now because I am over my ten minutes. I am sure other TUG members can add to the many positive reasons why they are with HGVC!

posted 03-27-2005 07:52               

Let me know.

posted 03-27-2005 09:41               

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Originally posted by JLB:
Jenny and I really do not want to take on any more annual fee obligation, and we are perfectly happy with our remaining Weeks weeks, but since I have seen proof that we could likely be able to get SW Florida for January, at one of the wonderful HGVC resorts there, I will entertain taking over anyone's HGVC points.

Let me know.

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Essie may have some for sale.

posted 03-27-2005 09:47               

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Originally posted by eipheltower:
At least, they were informed!! I was not. I did not know that RCI exchanges are difficult with HGVC; I need to have a friend in the HGVC system to get me the trade I want. If you do not like my comments, TOO BAD. My comments are not for you anyway! So get a life!!

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I have had 9 trades into the Manhattan Club this year using HGVC points. Can you get that with your WM, Marriott or Sheraton? Also, I have trouble getting away for a full week. I am at the new Hilton on the las Vegas Strip, open season booking 2 bedroom 2 nights, (Friday and last night). It is nice being able to go for JUST 2 NIGHT, not a whole week.

posted 03-27-2005 11:17               

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Originally posted by sethnock:
I have had 9 trades into the Manhattan Club this year using HGVC points. Can you get that with your WM, Marriott or Sheraton? Also, I have trouble getting away for a full week. I am at the new Hilton on the las Vegas Strip, open season booking 2 bedroom 2 nights, (Friday and last night). It is nice being able to go for JUST 2 NIGHT, not a whole week.

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So Seth, how do you like the new property on the Strip?

How far along is the construction for the next tower? Last summer it was in its infancy.

Enjoy!

posted 03-27-2005 14:21               

I love the rooms at the new Strip Property, I think they are better than the Flamingo or the LV Hilton locations. The Flamingo has the best location for casino access. The pool is awesome as well.

As for the general theme of this thread, I LOVE my HGVC points. I just check the Hilton Club NY which I can pick up and use at the 6 month mark as I have elite status. Boy they are nice.

I use my HGVC points for hard to get locations and use some of my other RCI properties to trade into HGVC locations. I find that is a cheaper option.

posted 03-28-2005 02:33               

In addition, negative comments about HGVC are just as welcome as positive ones in an informative and open BBS such as TUG, IMO.

posted 03-28-2005 09:10               

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Originally posted by Sandy Lovell:
Not sethnock but I thought I would answer anyway.

I love the rooms at the new Strip Property, I think they are better than the Flamingo or the LV Hilton locations. The Flamingo has the best location for casino access. The pool is awesome as well.

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Sandy, I have been to all three and was just curious about another opinion. So yours fits a-ok with me

I think the Flamingo is showing a bit of wear and tear, and they addressed that in the last owners breakfast we were at last summer. It was kind of funny, because the manager was talking about carpets etc and some guy in the crowd wanted to go on and on about having vcr's in the room instead of dvd players.

I also think that the rooms at the Strip property seemed a bit smaller. But I may be wrong. I like the Flamingo because the lock off second bedroom has a pull out sofa bed, which for the four of us is great.

I haven't been back to the @the Hilton property since we bought there, but I am thinking about it for our next visit (sometime soon I hope) because I want to try out the monorail and they have wi fi there too.

Thanks for sharing.

Rick

posted 03-28-2005 11:59               

I have seen the Flamingo, but not stayed. I would pick this as my second location, but it likely would be my first if I was a gambler.

I have stayed the the HGVC LV Hilton, but it is actually my least favourite of the three. Only stayed in a Studio on points, but it was use or lose my points situtation. The studio is very small. The pool is just OK, so nothing special about this location.

posted 03-28-2005 14:23               

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Essie may have some for sale.

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And I was serious in my offer.

If someone had offered to take our final Westgate off our hands we would have given it to them.

So, when others are dissatisfied with what they own I assume they may wish to do the same thing. Many folks give away timeshares they are unhappy with.

posted 03-29-2005 00:59               

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Originally posted by ricoba:

So Seth, how do you like the new property on the Strip?

How far along is the construction for the next tower? Last summer it was in its infancy.

Enjoy!

Rick

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It is an incredibly nice resort. The high speed internet in the rooms is great. The first tower is complete, they will have 3 other phases that they will be building soon. Its location is not as good as the other 2 Hiltons.

posted 03-29-2005 03:15               

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Originally posted by sethnock:
It is an incredibly nice resort. The high speed internet in the rooms is great. The first tower is complete, they will have 3 other phases that they will be building soon. Its location is not as good as the other 2 Hiltons.

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In summary, HGVC is a mediocre timeshare. People like Sethnock and others who makes money selling timeshares will say a lot of things to sell you a 7000 point for $12,400 with $600 closing fees from best closing company in US. If you like to buy, he has two of them in EBAY on sale for a while. All you need to do is to push the "Buy it now" button. And you will be the proud owner of HGVC timeshares. Sethnock will stand by you if you have problem figuring out HGVC owner's manual for FREE. Cheers!!
http://search.ebay.com/_W0QQfgtpZ1QQfrppZ25QQsassZtravelingQ2dseth

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Essie R.

posted 03-29-2005 03:27               

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Originally posted by Jim and Cindy:
Dave is right on the money. We are HGVC owners and former Marriott owners. HGVC compensates me with points by taking a smaller unit or travelling off season. With Marriott, if you trade a 2BR non-lockoff for a studio, you get nothing back. Also, we have accidentally reserved a silver home week and RCI traded it for a non-HGVC 2 bedroom week without using the point system. We experienced much worse customer service and frustration with Marriott. If there are any other EXPERIENCED owners out there that have owned HGVC and other hotel chains and can complain about the HGVC system, I would like to hear from them.

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Any other unhappy Marriott owners? I am in the market for Grand Vista, & Marbella. No brokers please.

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Essie R.

posted 03-29-2005 07:43               

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Originally posted by eipheltower:
In summary, HGVC is a mediocre timeshare. People like Sethnock and others who makes money selling timeshares will say a lot of things to sell you a 7000 point for $12,400 with $600 closing fees from best closing company in US. If you like to buy, he has two of them in EBAY on sale for a while. All you need to do is to push the "Buy it now" button. And you will be the proud owner of HGVC timeshares. Sethnock will stand by you if you have problem figuring out HGVC owner's manual for FREE. Cheers!!

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Essie,

Your snide personal attacks are becoming tiresome.

Rick

posted 03-29-2005 09:48               

They are by far the cream of the crop in SW Florida.