posted 03-07-2005 09:26               

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Originally posted by Bill4728:
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I would like to see more Hilton development in the Condotel(hotel and condo)model. Services and ammenities get shared.

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When I was in Vancouver last year I found a large glossy brochure from the newspaper advertising this. Saying that Hilton was going to take over the Delta Suites in conjunction with Intrawest (which is the developer at Whistler). The ad seemed to imply that they were selling fractional units or condo's, but not weekly timeshares. As of a search today, it is still listed on the Delta Whistler Village Suites and then over at the Hilton Hotles site it is perhaps listed as Hilton Whistler Resort, and it will open June 2005.

So do you think there may be a chance for a few rooms to become HGVC?

I personally am not a big Whistler fan (I jusut don't like snow/cold & wet ) But since I have inlaws in Vancouver, it would be fun to stay there in the summer sometimes for a few days.

I just read the full text of rfb813's post and that makes it clear from the brochure & the good post it's not going to be a ts projuect.

Here is the info about the property from the Hilton.com site:

The Hilton Whistler Resort is located at the base of both Whistler and Blackcomb mountain gondolas in the heart of Whistler Village - site of the 2010 Winter Olympics. Walking distance to numerous shops and restaurants, and adjacent to the Arnold Palmer Whistler Golf Course and Telus Conference Center. Although reknowned for its world-class downhill skiing, Whistler abounds with a variety of other winter activities including cross-country skiing, snowmobiling, dog-sledding and sleigh rides. Winter is not all there is to Whistler however! Summer action takes you through a wide range of choices to suit all members of your group. For a relaxed outing, you can choose from hundreds of kilometers of paved trails for walking, bicycling or jogging. Visit a number of parks and lakes for canoeing, swimming, or rowing. For the more adventurous spirit, there is mountain biking, bungee jumping, white water rafting or sailing through the tree canopy on a zip line. Whistler is home to some of the finest signature golf courses in the world including the Nicklaus North Golf Course, and the Chateau Whistler Golf Club. A short drive will also take you to Pemberton Valley and the Big Sky Golf and Country Club. The Hilton Whistler Resort features 87 guest rooms and 202 suites. Some suites are equipped with full kitchens, fireplaces, balconies, saunas and jacuzzi tubs. Irons/ironing boards, coffee makers, hairdryers, safes and two phones with voice mail, along with wireless high-speed connectivity is standard in all rooms. Evergreens Restaurant is open daily for breakfast and dinner. The Cinnamon Bear Bar is open daily at 11am for lunch and a full selection of drinks and appetizers. The Mountain Health Club is equipped with a wide range of exercise equipment, change rooms, indoor/outdoor hot tub, dry sauna and heated outdoor pool. The Vital Spirit Spa offers a wide range of esthetic treatments and massage treatments and is open daily. With 10,000 sq. ft. of meeting space and walking distance to the Telus Conference Center, the Whistler Resort is an ideal setting for your annual convention, incentive meeting of product launch. A full-time dedicated conference services manager will assist with your creative conferencing needs and team-building events. Located in the Coastal Mountains of British Columbia, Canada, Whistler is approximately 115 kms. (72 mi.) from the city of Vancouver. From Vancouver International Airport, you can take a scenic 2-3 hour drive along the Sea to Sky highway. Once in Whistler there is little need for a private vehicle so if you are flying to Vancouver, the best way to get here is by bus, limousine or charter plane.

Rick

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posted 03-08-2005 11:05            

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Originally posted by cathicool:
hi!
we just came back from Seaworld and was told at the owners update that Hilton has purchased another site in.....yup, you guessed it,......orlando. the saleslady didn't know specifically where the location was.

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Originally posted by cathicool:
hi!
we just came back from Seaworld and was told at the owners update that Hilton has purchased another site in.....yup, you guessed it,......orlando. the saleslady didn't know specifically where the location was. she stated it hasn't been disclosed yet to any sales agents. she mentioned that hilton is extremely pleased with the overwhelming response of the tuscany. so that's 3 for orlando and 3 for vegas.....do i hear 4? i wish hilton would explore more locations as well.
cathi

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R U sure they bought more land in Orlando? Aren't they simply going to keep building at Tuscany?

I just spent the afternoon down at Disneyland. There on Harbor Blvd were of course the Anaheim Hilton and then a bit further down in one large complex all together with one sign on one piece of property were a Hampton Inn, Embassy Suites & a Hilton Garden Inn. I don't know the details and how big the lot was (big enough for three stand alone hotels at least) but I thought to myself..."why didn't they put an HGVC in there too?"

Rick

posted 03-09-2005 06:38               

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Originally posted by opusX:
I don't know if this helps or not but evertime we go to an owners presentation and they ask about buying more points I always point out the fact that I would consider it if they had some different destinations and it would be nice if they could associate with II for some more upscale exchanges. Mayby if every owner would do something like that they would get the message but I doubt it. I like the program but if they do not expand their horzens my next point purchase will be Mariott or Hyatt and I tell HGVC that.

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I agree with you.. It's time for existing owners to make some noise. I don't think, however, it will do much good... I think if new HGVC member sales continue to do as well as they have been in FL, HI and NV, Management at Hilton will be less concerned with the pace at which existing members are upgrading. For now, I think they will remain focused on new and unsuspecting members who are so willing to jump into the frying pan.. Why bother building elsewhere when you have so many who will gladly pay 28K for 7000 points in Orlando?

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posted 03-09-2005 08:03               

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Originally posted by iiderman:
Why bother building elsewhere when you have so many who will gladly pay 28K for 7000 points in Orlando?

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I am sure you hit the nail on the head. Why branch out to other locations, develop new sales teams/offices etc as long as you are making money with the current operation? It's good for Hilton share holders, not so great for us club owners

But having said that I would sign a letter or help in writing a letter if someone would like to help start a small campaign.

posted 03-09-2005 14:33               

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Originally posted by ricoba:

But having said that I would sign a letter or help in writing a letter if someone would like to help start a small campaign.

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Hi Rick..I can't commit to leading the campaign on this but I would certainly sign any letter that's put forward. I've really enjoyed my ownership with HGVC (now at 30,800 points) but I'm getting a little tired of paying $1000 plus in exchange fees annually to RCI!

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posted 03-09-2005 18:27               

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Originally posted by iiderman:
Hi Rick..I can't commit to leading the campaign on this but I would certainly sign any letter that's put forward. I've really enjoyed my ownership with HGVC (now at 30,800 points) but I'm getting a little tired of paying $1000 plus in exchange fees annually to RCI!

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OUCH!!!

I thought about this after I posted and I would be willing to write a letter, but how would we put this all together etc?

Seems like a simple enough project, saying we are a group of informed and concerned club members who really do like HGVC, but we are concerned by its lack of current choices/growth etc.

I would simply address the letter to the president of HGVC and some of the customer relations vp's etc and maybe send one to Hilton Corp.

But I would want to include as many names and addresses as possible of current owners so we could demonstate it's not just a couple folks.

It wouldn't be bombastic, just a polite suggestion.

Anyone who has ideas, feel free to post them here or email me privately.

I just need some ideas how to put it together, and get everyones info etc....

Thanks!

posted 03-10-2005 07:43               

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Originally posted by yoko:
The trade association I belong to sometimes does a "write to your congress persons and senetors" campaign. The campaign runs like this: the association puts on its web page a sample letter which you can just cut and paste. The web page also has a list of email addresses and regular mail addresses of regislators. Each association member is expected to send an individual letter.

In this campaign, your regislator receives a lot of letters regarding a particular subjsect rather than one letter signed by a lot of people.

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Thanks for the suggestion, but wouldn't I have to set up a website to do that? I am not sure how to go about doing that. How can I do this in a manner that is easy for us to all contribute?

posted 03-10-2005 11:47               

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Originally posted by sb1070:
Hilton doesn't care about unhappy owners....
Further when your plan is to lie and deceive

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posted 03-10-2005 14:19               

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Originally posted by kter:
I vote SB write the letter! Dear Uncaring liars and deceivers...

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lol... very funny kter!

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posted 03-15-2005 06:32               

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Originally posted by sethnock:

I beg to differ. I have converted many HGVC points to Hilton HHonors points. 7000 HGVC points = 161,000 points. I have booked GLONP awards (175,000 points for 6 nights in Sydney, Aukland, Rome, and Kona). The Grace Hotel in Sydney is about $300 per night, the Aukland Hilton is also about $300 per night, The Rome Hilton is about $800 per night and the Hilton Waikaloa (Kona) is about $270 per night. I was very happy with these reservations. I have also booked many opportunity level hotels 10,000 points per night (each about $100 per night).

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posted 03-15-2005 08:38               

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Originally posted by eipheltower:

That is because you have a large inventory of unsold HGVC TS and you have to do something with those points taht you are accumulating. For others, conversion to HHONORS points is simply unwise and a waste of points.

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I converted to HHONORS. I used it to go to Japan ($350.00 per night), Hong Kong ($400.00 - peak season, October) and St. Lucia
($500.00) per night.

It helps to be a Diamond with no blackout dates...

posted 03-15-2005 09:00               

[/b][/QUOTE]That is because you have a large inventory of unsold HGVC TS and you have to do something with those points taht you are accumulating. For others, conversion to HHONORS points is simply unwise and a waste of points.

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Converting into HHonors does not have to be "a waste of points"... that is of course, if you know what you are doing. If you take advantage of the 6 night VIP awards for category 6 hotels where a nightly stay averages $400 or more before taxes, you will have used your points very wisely. You can also occasionally take advantage of point stretcher awards, not as easily available but definitely an option. We have stayed at some flagship hotels in Rome, London and Paris using the VIP stay and saved a great deal. We have also used point stretchers for one night stays in places like the Gatwick Hilton (for air travel connections) using 21,000 points per night where the best rate offered by the hotel was over 150 pounds sterling!

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Well, that is if you have nothing better to do other than managing your points and more points!! I take vacations when I need a break from my work like most people in the world.
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posted 03-15-2005 13:53               

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Originally posted by eipheltower:
That is because you have a large inventory of unsold HGVC TS and you have to do something with those points taht you are accumulating. For others, conversion to HHONORS points is simply unwise and a waste of points.

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I might be wrong, but I don't think Seth owns any of his inventory.
He's like a typical real estate broker that matches buyers and sellers.
Good theory though

posted 03-15-2005 16:08               

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Well, that is if you have nothing better to do other than managing your points and more points!! I take vacations when I need a break from my work like most people in the world.[/B][/QUOTE]

eipheltower, that's like buying a brand new VCR and saying "I don't have the time to program it" and then wonder why you missed the cliffhanger season finale of your favorite show! HGVC is no different than any other hotel based timeshare ownership.. You need to first fully understand the product and learn to use it.. even then you have to continuously look for ways to maximize that ownership. Nothing in life is simple!

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